17 year old shot in the forehead by 9 mm. lives

glockman55

www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/1...index.html

A robbery suspect shot in the head with a 9mm, survives.

The 9mm might be a little light for concealed carry?

fb41 · Rookie Member Joined: Jan 02, 2007 Posts: 22

"The 9mm might be a little light for concealed carry?"

Don't make that assumption based on 1 incident; people have survived being shot by every pistol caliber. The human head is an amazing piece of hardware- it can withstand an enormous amount of damage and still keep its owner alive.

Bushmaster

Even so the 9mmX19 is still at the bottom of my list for a carry calibre.

fb41 · Rookie Member Joined: Jan 02, 2007 Posts: 22

This is one of those topics that always ignites controversy.
IF we were restricted to only lead or FMJ bullets, I'd carry a .45, .44 or .38 Spl (the old "FBI" load), but since we have premium bullets, the 9 is as effective as any and better than most.

According to details found at Chuck Hawks, a 9mm 115 +P Cor-Bon has a "1 shot stop" rating of 91%, whereas a .45ACP 230 grain Hydra-Shok is 94%.

Admittedly, all that is subjective, but it is in line with other data I've read.

I find a 9 easier to carry and don't feel the least bit undergunned with one. I own- and can shoot quite well- a 1911, but it just don't carry well concealed with my build.

My whole point is don't ASSUME a 9 is too weak on the basis of 1 extraordinary case.

glockman55

I agree, for self defence training I was taught to shoot for the chest area, not the head. I use Cor-Bon 40 S&W 150gr JHP in my G23, They shoot well in my gun and I feel real confident with this load for self defence. The main thing I think a lot forget is to practice, I try to shoot mine at least once a week. I have a range out back that makes it easier. Just like anything with fire arms, bullet placement is the key.

Bushmaster

And I carry a 9mmX19 Firestar loaded with 115 JHP +P, but it still won't change my mind that it is at the bottom of my list for CCW. I too, have a .45 ACP that I would rather carry, but as you said. I can't carry it hidden on this light frame of mine either.

Geeeezzz...All I did was make a statement...Sorry Sad

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gelandangan

I don't know anything about personal carry weapon.

But, I am with the opinion that for a robbery suspect, the head is the least important part of their anatomy. Confused

So a shot or two there can not be classified as a fatal hit Very Happy

Gelan

PaulS

When you compare the 9mm and 38 spl +p they are the same round. I figure that the police gave up the 38 spl in favor of the 357 and 9mm and the ones who chose the 9mm got the short end of the exchange.

Roscoe

I have not heard the follow up on the story, but it's a pretty interesting case, with court needing to decide whether the fella will be forced to undergo a surgical procedure to remove the bullet for evidence.