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Gil Martin Super Member
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 1839 Location: Schnecksville, PA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:59 am Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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Sounds like a good topic for a survey. All the best...
Gil
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11395 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:21 am Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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Thompson Center Hawkin .50 cal side lock Custom built...
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Crackshot Super Member
Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Mich
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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I use a Pennsylvannia Hunter T/C Percussion ( when my Daughter lets me) 75gr FFF .015" patch, .495" ball, snug fit shoots great, not hard to load.
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glockman55 Super Member
Joined: Dec 12, 2005 Posts: 831 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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I started out with a 54 cal. Hawkin, It weighed a ton. I finally broke down and went to an in-line, Thompson Encore 50 cal. Simple to use and clean. I have killed more deer with the Hawkin, never had to chase many with the big 54 cal slug I used, on the other hand, the in-line I am using a 245 gr. pistol bullet with a sabot, more accurate less knock down power, had to track most of the deer I shot. This year I switched to a 300 gr. Shock Wave by TC. shoots good with 100 gr. of powder, never got a shot this year though.
Jerry
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wheelgun Rookie Member
Joined: Apr 26, 2006 Posts: 1 Location: texas
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 2965 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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Welcome to the HuntingNut wheelgun sit and stay a while
Joe
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chuck41 Rookie Member
Joined: Apr 20, 2007 Posts: 11 Location: Hot Springs, AR
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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Crackshot wrote: |
Inlines are for lazy Primitive hunters. (this will get this forum humming) |
The only decent muzzleloader is the Savage ML10 smokeless inline muzzleloader. The rest of these things are just for folks who are trying to justify themselves as "primitive hunters", but can't keep the cord smoking on a matchlock and can't hit the side of a barn from the inside with a bow and arrow.
GO SMOKELESS. RAH!! RAH!! RAH!!
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glockman55 Super Member
Joined: Dec 12, 2005 Posts: 831 Location: Michigan
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11395 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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And I'm a damned good shot with my T/C Hawken...
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Gigmaster Member
Joined: Dec 24, 2007 Posts: 64 Location: Chatsworth, Ga.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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Actually, throughout the 19th century, there were many types of rifles that could be called 'inlines'. The most famous was probably the 1st Remington Rolling Block muzzleloader. The First US Patent for a working In-Line Rifle was issued in 1822. But, like most things, it was slow to catch on....too slow as it worked out.
When the percussion cap was invented in 1802, it was slow to catch on. Flintlocks were still in wide use even up to the War For Southen Independence. What really kept the In-Line from being widely used was the invention of the self-contained metallic cartridge. With more time, In-Lines might have supplanted Side-Locks, especially with the new breechloaders comming out.
Personally, I don't consider In-Lines as a Primitve weapon. It's not just that they have a different design for the ignition system. There's more to it than that. They are designed to shoot heavier powder charges, sabots, mount modern scopes, have light synthetic stocks, and many other modern convieniences. The are simply a modern rifle that shoots loose ammunition. Thier performance is equal to, and somemes surpasses modern cartridge rifles. They should not be allowed in Muzzleloading seasons.
And it's not like the same difference between Compound and Primitive bows. The only advantage a compound has is the ability to hold it a full draw with little force, making it easier for a less skilled archer to shoot accuratly. 50 Lbs. is 50 Lbs. An arrow shot from a 50 Lb. Compound, or a 50 Lb. Recurve will perfom very similar. And crossbows actually have a diminished performance from both types of bows. So there can be no justification here. (In Ga., it has been argued that compounds should not be allowed during archery season, but's it's an argument with no substance).
If you are going to go muzzleloading, then stick to the spirit of it and use a side-lock. Over half of the appeal is the historical ramifications.
Just my opinion.
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SingleShotLover Super Member
Joined: Dec 26, 2007 Posts: 1005 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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In my state the law merely says "muzzle loader". There is no differentiation between matchlocks, wheel locks, flintlocks, caplocks or etc. If it loads from the muzzle, it's a muzzle loader. I have used and built several caplocks in the Hawken style and enjoyed hunting with them. My wife surprised me too with an inline one year. It is the .50 caliber Pedersoli version of a Remington Rolling Block using 209 shotgun primers for ignition. With its very fast twist (1/22") it loves long, heavy bullets and is a tack-driver with them.
Where the local laws say "primitive", I would agree that only original designs should apply. This still allows for considerable leeway since a multitude of designs exist that still fit this narrow criteria.
I do get concerned when I see the "smokeless powder" muzzle loaders. I'm always afraid that the usual brainless Nimrods that abound in any sport won't get it that they don't just dump a measure full of powder in and start shooting! I guess that defines "selective evolution".
Bottom line is that if it's legal and ethical to use, feel free and we all can celebrate the fact that we have choices.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5002 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: Re: INLINE OR SIDELOCK |
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Crackshot, does your inline load itself? Mine loads EXACTLY like my Pennsylvania rifle: pour powder, seat bullet and cap... (LOL! I had to "hum" some!)
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Crackshot Super Member
Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Mich
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