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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: wild cats cartredges you have player with Reply with quote

hi im new hear at the nut. well new to any forum. if you cant tell already i cant spell or type but hear goes.
in the early 80s i started to get into long range shooting. back then i couldnt find a rifle or cartredge i realy liked so i started building my own rifles and playing with wild cats. ive been a aerospace tool maker for 27 years. I met up with a bench rest rifle man and he showed me the ins and outs of rifle building. in trade i made his rail guns!
my three sons and i are monster muley long range nnnnuuuuuttttssss!!!!
we spend 100 or more days a year lookin and chasin muleys!
we shoot an averedge of 2500 rifle rounds a year at long range.
i cant count the barrels we have shot out!!!!!!!
so we have a few wild cats we have played with, over the years all name a few!
280 rem case 36deg shoulders one cal. necks .015 body taper
24-280imp 87gr 3650fps
25-280imp 100gr 3500fps
26-280imp 125gr 3415fps
27-280imp 130gr 3275fps
30-280imp 165gr 3200fps

22-30/06 shortend .110 60gr 4000fps this one is a dog

338-300 ultra mag 225gr 3250fps
27 stw 130 3512fps
257stw 87gr 4100fps
24-7mm wsm 87gr 3900fps
25-7mm wsm 100gr 3675fps
22-284 80gr 3400fps

338 ultra mag shortend .1875 to fit ruger action
6.5-338 mid 130gr 3687fps
270-338 mid 130gr 3615fps
28-338 mid 154gr 3450fps
30-338 mid 180gr 3215fps
338-338 mid 225gr 3150fps this is in a controle feed 30/06 lainght action will beat 340wby.

25-300wby imp 87gr 4200fps
27 ultra mag turned out to be a dog to much case
26 ultra mag turnd out to be a dog to much case

the longest shot made 1345yards mule deer one shot kill. 338-300 ultra mag.
closest shot made 27 feet cow elk 458 lott ya one shot kill!
our faveret long rang rifles are os fallows
338-300 ultra mag shillen 27"bbl (my own taper) rem action jeweld trigger leupold 6.5-20 scope with knobs hsprosision stock 18lbs
300 ultra mag rem action lilja 28" bbl (my taper) jeweld trigger leupold 6.5-20 scope with knobs shehane tracker stock 17lbs (longest shot 1078 yrd cayote)
28-338 mid ruger action hart 26"bbl rifles basicks trigger leupold 6.4-20 scope with knobs custome lamminit stock 14lbs (for shootin rockchucks)
lost season i shot a chuck at 1273 yrds with this rifle
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: wild cats cartredges you have player with Reply with quote

Gday allenpmw

Welcome to the lair of the nuts Very Happy
Pull a stump and grab a beer..

Thats an impressive list ya got there mate!

Please tell more of your wildcat adventures..

I starts wildcatting about 8 years ago, onlu made up a few mediocre tries.
I like low velocity rounds..
My best working wildcat is a 300 whisper.
Worse one is a 8mm mouser necked down to .223
in between I got a few dreamt up and tried out such as .380 auto necked to .308 , 300/357Max whisper and a few more.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: wild cats cartredges you have player with Reply with quote

well good to meet ya.
this wild cats will keep you up at night!
low valicity is not even in my relm of thinking! (nothin wrong with that)

when i think up a wild cat the first thing i wont to dicide is what do i wont this new one to do. my mado mo fasta mo betta. go long or go home.


i try to go cheep! haw can i get what i wont out of what i got!
i will use one chamber reamer to do a bunch of wild cats!

be carfull when you start this game i have blew up one rifle and hade to replace several bolt handles. knock them off with a stuck case.
my worst one was that dam- 270 ultra mag. the first shot i fired it stuck the case so tight i knocked the handle off the bolt! brobbubly should have used a little less powder. my cornagragh registerd 130gr bullet 4367fps
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: wild cats cartredges you have player with Reply with quote

Hay allenpmw welcome

Holly crap man them kinda figures are just blowing my mind, that's some crazy stuf, but impressive tho,do you set up some kinda gig to fire the rifle so you are out of the way or do just big ball's it and squeeze that trigger ya self? I've just got into what I call long range varmint shooting but nothing like what you do though, whats your longest recorded kill?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: wild cats cartredges you have player with Reply with quote

No my thee sons and i aculy fire from the shoulder!
the 338-300 ultra has a muzzle brake on it. I hade to put it on. It kept braking leupold 6.5-20 scopes with out one.
The longest kill shot to date is 1603 yrds. on a rockchuck I took 5 shots to get it done. That shot was with the 338-300. To go long you need big bullets with a high BC. And you need to lonch them!
We my boys and i have run the gammet with long rang rifles. frome 25/06 on up.
I have a 6.5 mid that we shoot the close chucks with.
We only shoot the bigger ones at long range.

Hell every one needs a hobby!!
I own my own machine shop weld shop so its easy to build rifles.

MO FASTA MO BETTA
GO LONG OR GO HOME

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: wild cats cartredges you have player with Reply with quote

Im impressed ,how bout some pics of them rifleguns

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: wild cats cartredges you have player with Reply with quote

allenpmw wrote:

I own my own machine shop weld shop so its easy to build rifles.

Hey Allen, I'm wondering if you make your own dies. I'm setting up a little CNC lathe and I'm thinking about making dies for my wildcats. BJ

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: wild cats cartredges you have player with Reply with quote

Yeah, some pics would be great, including some of your shop.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: wild cats cartredges you have player with Reply with quote

I would post some pict. But to be frank I dont know how. I'm no computer gurue!
And as you can planly see i cant spell for -hit!
I make my own dies out of A-2 Tool steel. 1600 deg then air cool.
I dont make dies for all my wild cats. Most of the time i just use or modify the dies i have. All the shortend 338 ultr rounds I just use reg dies and shorten them on my lathe. Its easy ther only case hardnd.
A trick to dies is just use a rough chamber reamer in your dies.
Always check them before you heat treat.

Anouther thing i do to save money is swop barrels!
stock $300.00
scope $300.00 - $800.00
trigger $200.00
why go to all that expens to own 20 rifles?
Anouther trick is use rem. take off barrels to try a new idea out you can get one for $40.00-$100.00
then if its a keeper buy a good barrel.
rent reamers $25.00
you wont a 338 ultra to fit a ruger rent a 338 ultra mag reamer $24.00
buy 338 ultra dies $29.00 cut .1875 off base set die in press to do a full lainght size. trimm .1875 off brass thers your go gage!
run reamer in intell brass just fits. this will fitt a ruger its a controle feed tough as nails big bear rifle. it will drive 225 interbonds 3100fps. Thats faster and harder hitting than a 340 wby.

Playing with wild cats doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg!

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