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tracker Super Member
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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_________________ A cruel truth is much more desirable than a really nice lie.
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Dimitri Super Member
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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Dimitri wrote: |
1895ss wrote: |
Same here.... we were over a million for a while but then everybody thought it was sweeter in Alberta and away they went. I think that's good, more room for me....... |
Sask, is looking like a better and better place to live actually. Maybe sometime later on once I get some money in the bank to buy a small farm there.
Dimitri |
No no 'Mitri........... an Easterner like yourself would get lost out here, not to mention lonely, there's hardly no women here . We don't have wall to wall people you know! If for example you're out hunting you can actually go all day without seeing another soul here. Besides would you mind keeping it quiet, we don't want to start a stampede in our direction. Come to think of it, this is a very very terrible place to live, with all the poverty, diseases, no jobs, bugs, dry climate, colder then *** winters and the list goes on and on. You'd best tell all your neighbors to stay where they are................. Manitoba's a good place to live though........
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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1895,
Sorry all of the things you said to make me not want to move probably made me like it more (the cold, the open spaces etc).
Plus I can probably find and get myself a attractive smart girl over there pretty easily if I did move before finding a girl here.
Dimitri
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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_________________ A cruel truth is much more desirable than a really nice lie.
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d_hoffman Super Member
Joined: Feb 13, 2007 Posts: 696 Location: Chillicothe, Ohio
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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DallanC wrote: |
After seeing several arguments on the subject of ownership of an animal and "theft", I have to ask, at what point in the harvest of a deer or elk does it legally become yours?
At the time of the shot? When its dead and on the ground? When you legally tag it? Just curious... i've never seen a legal definition of this, but would guess its when you tag it. Anyone know for sure?
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Legally, it's when your tag is on it.
Ethically, it's first potentially fatal blood. IE, some one shoots a deer and just say, it's a gut shot. The deer runs 200 yards down the trail and you shoot it center lung or heart shot and the deer continues for another 50 yards and drops. YOUR DEER!!!
If someone shoots the deer center mass and it runs say, 100 yards stops and is wobbly on it's feet, you step out and shoot the deer say, high at the back of the rib cage and the deer falls over dead, THIER DEER!!!
Now the trick is to find the ethical hunter that would honor the age old hunting ethics that our fore-fathers did. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!!
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d_hoffman Super Member
Joined: Feb 13, 2007 Posts: 696 Location: Chillicothe, Ohio
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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Bushmaster wrote: |
You'd hunt with an old Sailor? Bring it on Jarhead.
If I have my way that could happen in a couple of years as I plan to retire in southeast Missouri. |
You'd take a jarhead, how 'bout the Army?
HAHAHA
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11394 Location: Ava, Missouri
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skb2706 Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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I hunt private land with my son and brother in law. Its not likely we will have many disputes about ownership. A good deer or antelope hunt we will see several dozen animals ...none of us get all wound up about just one.
On public land elk hunting...I just go when no one else is there. Its 70 miles from my door to the first elk I see...probably less.
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sniper Super Member
Joined: Aug 18, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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The outdoors is full of people that believe that they are somehow "entitled". I knew a young man(18 or so) who had stalked and arrowed a good-sized 6X6 elk.
He was preparing to field dress it, when some loony came out of the brush, clearly agitated, told him "I've been here for 6 weeks, and that elk is MINE!" The youngster quickly withdrew, probably saving himself injury or worse.
A customer of mine was hunting with his brother, and had shot an elk at long range, breaking its back, immobilizing it. It was sitting there, propped on its front legs, and as they watched, two people came out of the brush , circled the elk, and then shot it.
They walked over to the elk, and told the other guys thanks for putting it down. Then the argument started.
One of the other guys said; "As long as it has one foot on the ground, it's fair game!" My opinion: it belonged to the person who had immobilized it. They argued about it for a while, and the guys that killed it left. Later, they were packing it out on their 4 wheelers, and came to a rock wall the others had built, blocking the road. The two came out of the brush, and took the elk at gunpoint, poking my customer a couple of times in the chest with a rifle barrel. Fortunately, no one got hurt.
The incident was reported to the authorities, the two thieves were arrested, and spent some time in prison.
Point is,like the tragic incident in Michigan, you never know the mindset of another person you chance to meet in the outdoors, and discretion is necessary.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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Sniper,
Interesting stories. Guess thats why in the US where its legal people carry handguns while hunting for the "2 legged" threats.
Dimitri
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sniper Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11394 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: At what point is an animal "yours" |
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That's an idea...Say...Sniper...Can I borrow you for next year?
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sniper Super Member
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