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Proper Primer Seating
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

Yup...Rralphh is the one I kept getting instead of Orrorkk...

I haven't noticed that much difference between primers as far as residue is concerned, twofifty...

Here ya go Gelandangan...It could be any throttle/choke cable. Round knob or "T" handle (pictured). Removes media in the flash hole and cleans the pocket. I use it to do any probing chores around the bench also...



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

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That's well and good Handloader, but I will keep on cleaning my primer pockets. I did an experiment a few years ago with CCI primers in .45 ACP and [I] found that there was a slow increase of carbon in the primer pockets as I went along. After around 10 to 12 reloadings I was noticing that the primers were not seating as deep or were just a bit cockeyed in the pocket.

Besides...My method of cleaning the crusty pockets only takes about a minute or less for 50 cases...


And that, Mr Bushy, is the great thing about reloading and forums like this. We get a variety of information, pros and cons, advise and consent and dissent. Your experiment and mine gave different results which implies that there wasn't a consistency in components between us; that may offer some added information for consideration.

I will note that with the 45 Colt using Unique or AA#9, I have cases with well over 20 loadings without cleaning the primer pocket, yet, the primers seat easily below flush.

So, onward we go defining what works best for us and believing in our own methodology. Is this a great sport or what?!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

It IS a great sport and hobby.

If nothing else...Your experiment and mine will give others things to think about when primer problems occur...

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

Very Happy I'm till here and thank you all for your input, I am probably over concerned about this, but as a retired Tool & Die maker, precise measurements have always been very important to me, just a way of life I guess. Again thank you all for your responses, and as I am new to cartridge reloading (did shot-shells long ago) I will probably have more question down the road.

What I am thinking about now is what size bench to build. I will most likely do my reloading standing up and I will be using a Lee Load Masted with another Lee C type press on the side. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

lesterg3 wrote:
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What I am thinking about now is what size bench to build. I will most likely do my reloading standing up and I will be using a Lee Load Masted with another Lee C type press on the side. Any ideas?

I built mine so that my arm is just short of fully extended with the press handle all the way down when standing, making sure I wasn't leaning to the side.
Then I found a strong bar stool with a back for when I want to sit & shortened the legs an inch or so to achieve the same position for my arm.
My bench top is 30" front to back so that I can reach stuff without stretching & 60" long - too short really, now that I have two presses mounted.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

"Any ideas?"...Yes...Go with the Lee Cast "O" press instead of the "C" press.

Build your bench so it is a good compromise standing and sitting. I'm 5' 7" and my bench is 38" high. I use a shortened bar stool when sitting.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

Thanks Bushy..
I thought there is some cable left to work as "brush" for the carbon..
somehow my imagination is different to the actual stuff..

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

There is a bit of cable left (about an inch)...Most, if not all, cable pulls are one strand of solid wire. All you do is waller it around the primer pocket and one pass through the flash hole.



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: waller Reply with quote

waller: A neat colourful word.

Hey Bushmaster, help me out here please and tell us where this "waller" word comes from. It's a new word for me.

Is it a US Navy term?
Is wallering the action of scraping gunk off the walls of a space, compartment, or recess on a ship???
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

Waller===to roll oneself about in a lazy, relaxed, or ungainly manor. (hogs waller around in mud or a hog waller)... Nananana

What's wrong wit-chu, twofifty?...Don't you understand English? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

Some folks without proper educations may spell it "wallow"... Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

Aah Pumpkinslinger...Ya caught me...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

Looks like it's me that got caught in a state of flagrant ignorance....wallering in my own ignorance if you will.

I like that waller word.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

Dats neat..
I may try with some cut off from the bike brake cable... its too long and wallering my laigs while pedaling.. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Proper Primer Seating Reply with quote

Hey Bushy: How did you clean the primer pocket on that upside down case? Razz Very Happy
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