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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15723 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: Election thought |
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There are less than eight months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States . The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice. It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.
If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights on during the day. If you support Obama or Hillary, please drive with your headlights off at night.
Cheers, Vince
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vint2 Super Member
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OntheLasGallinas Super Member
Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Posts: 1042 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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Vint2;
We buy more guns and ammo and go to church! Isn't that what they expected of us.
Cary
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15723 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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_________________ Cheers, Vince
Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)
Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.
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FALPhil Super Member
Joined: Aug 18, 2007 Posts: 377 Location: Dixie
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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vint2 wrote: |
Hey, Vince, what if we don't like any of them???????????????? |
Vote for Bob Barr. That's what the pro-gun, low taxes, less government, more freedom types are doing.
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vint2 Super Member
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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Cary, I like that philosophy!!!
Vince, what if you don't drive?????
FALPhil, won't that get a dumocrat elected by splitting our vote?????
Now, if Hillary runs as an independent , assuming Obama wins, that could make a huge difference!!!!
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11394 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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And get saddled with Obami
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vint2 Super Member
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 2965 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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vint2 wrote: |
I will tell you that this election has me scared to death for our country |
Your not alone!!!!
Joe
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vint2 Super Member
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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vint2 Super Member
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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Can anyone tell me how to post an article on this site?? I have an excerpt from Lee Iacoca's new book that I feel and think everyone should read.
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Dimitri Super Member
Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 5947
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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Vint Copy and past it and use the Quote feature to separate it form your words ??
As for the election, the USA just like Canada to a lesser degree is a 2 party system you have the Democrats and Republicans, and we have the Liberals and Conservatives.
Voting for 3rd parties, athough you may agree with them, is the 2nd easiest way to throw your vote in the trash, the easiest way is to just not vote.
We may not agree with everything they want to do but we still need to pick the party that suits us best, not the small unknown party that has no chance.
Dimitri
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Duce Member
Joined: Mar 01, 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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I hate to say it but I'm in for the lesser of all the evil. Mr. McCain
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5002 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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The most obvious problem with voting for Barr, or most any other third party candidate, is that 90% of Americans would say "Who?" If they have NO chance of winning you do split the vote among similar-thinking people, allowing those other-(than)-thinking people to win. That's how Clinton got in in '92 with only 43% of the popular vote, isn't it? Perot had 19%, Bush had 37%. In a close race, as this one is likely to be, even a few votes could make the difference.
Voting for a third party candidate at this time might get him a little more recognition but it would surely be a Pyyrhic victory.
_________________ Mike
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vint2 Super Member
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Election thought |
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----- Original Message -----
Subject: Lee Iacocca
Remember Lee Iacocca, the man who rescued Chrysler
Corporation from it's death throes?
He's now 82 years old and has a new book, and here are
some excerpts.
Lee Iacocca Says:
'Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with
what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We
should be screaming bloody murder. We've got a gang of
clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a
cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind,
and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less
build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone
sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say,
'Stay the course'
Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is
America , not the damned 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound
bite: 'Throw all the bums out!'
You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off
my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up.
I hardly recognize this country anymore.
The most famous business leaders are not the innovators
but the guys in handcuffs. While we're fiddling in Iraq ,
the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what
to do. And the press is waving 'pom -poms' instead of
asking hard questions. That's not the promise of the '
America ' my parents and yours traveled across the ocean
for. I've had enough. How about you?
I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a
patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready
and willing to have. The Biggest 'C' is Crisis ! (Iacocca
elaborates on nine Cs of leadership, crisis being the
first.)
Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times
of crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on
the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off
to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself.
It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling
down.
On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more
than any other time in our history. We needed a steady
hand to guide us out of the ashes. A Hell of a Mess So
here's where we stand. We're immersed in a bloody war
with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. We're
running the biggest deficit in the history of the country.
We're losing the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our
once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health
care costs. Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in
power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in
trouble. Our borders are like sieves. The middle class
is being squeezed every which way These are times that cry
out for leadership.
But when you look around, you've got to ask:' Where have
all the leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative
communicators? Where are the people of character,
courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? may
be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the
point.
Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland
security than making us take off our shoes in airports and
throw away our shampoo? We've spent billions of dollars
building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do
is react to things that have already happened.
Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of
Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day
evaluating the response to the hurricane, or demanding
accountability for the decisions that were made in the
crucial hours after the storm.
Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it
doesn't happen again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms
happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what
you're going to do the next time.
Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively
about how we can restore our competitive edge in
manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could
ever be a time when 'The Big Three' referred to Japanese
car companies? How did this happen, and more important,
what are we going to do about it?
Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for
paying down the debit, or solving the energy crisis, or
managing the health care problem. The silence is
deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away
at our country and milking the middle class dry.
I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you
to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent
while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is
being replaced with mediocrity. What is everybody so
afraid of? That some bonehead on Fox News will call them
a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some
spine for a change?
Had Enough?
Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom
here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out
because I have hope I believe in America . In my lifetime
I've had the privilege of living through some of America's
greatest moments. I've also
experienced some of our worst crises: the 'Great
Depression', 'World War II', the 'Korean War', the
'Kennedy Assassination', the 'Vietnam War', the 1970s oil
crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating with
9/11. If I've learned
one thing, it's this: 'You don't get anywhere by standing
on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action.
Whether it's building a better car or building a better
future for our children, we all have a role to play.
That's the challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a
call to 'Action' for people who, like me, believe in
America . It's not too late, but it's getting pretty
close. So let's shake off the crap and go to work. Let's
tell 'em all we've had 'enough.'
Make your own contribution by sending this to everyone you
know and care about. It's our country, folks; and it's our
future. Our future is at stake!
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