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An interesting articleDiscussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5087 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:47 pm Post subject: An interesting article |
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This is a good article on load development. This stuff has totally changed my thinking.
www.outdoorlife.com/gu...fle-nodes/
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Dimitri Super Member


Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 6022
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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: An interesting article |
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Interesting article.
It explains why a commercial load like Federal Gold Medal Match can seem "great" in everything as consistency of the load itself is likely more important then matching the "node" of any one rifle.
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Vince Site Admin


Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 16083 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:08 am Post subject: Re: An interesting article |
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An interesting article, albeit fairly confusing. I had difficulty working out his exact point of the article, and more importantly, his final procedures for finding “that” load, the one that will shoot best in your rifle.
I’m still not sure on his actual procedure though. He shot OCW Ladder tests for both velocity and group size, and also shot large groups. Both of these involved shooting small groups that allowed him to select a load…isn’t this what the OCW Ladder test is going to show us…the node, that point, where a load will be tighter than the rest. Either way, I believe, he shot far more rounds than was necessary to arrive at the most accurate load for his rifle/s.
One thing I do agree with though is his practise of loading rounds to the “published” AOL of a cartridge. Unless you are Benchrest shooting, there is no real need to chase the ideal (perfect) “jump” through the throat to the rifling. Let’s not forget that the kill zone on our chosen quarry is considerably larger than MOA or less. Which is why I chase Minute of Critter for my accuracy.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5087 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: An interesting article |
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Vince, his point is that there is no "node" really. Multiple "nodes" appear because the sample size is too small. I've always thought that those folks firing one round at a particular charge weight are simply wasting time and components. You're not getting any useful information from that. Even 3 or 5 rounds aren't telling you much about the actual accuracy of the load, it's not statistically significant. When I was helping design machines we used to joke if it made one cycle, "That's one in a row, ship it!"
Here's a great explanation - www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwumAGRmz2I
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Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11487 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: An interesting article |
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Aaaahh I'll just stay with my own system. It works for me. All my rifles are antiques anyway. 1949 Mod 94 WCF .30-30, 1972 Browning BLR .308, 1992 Browning Hunter .30-06 and a much newer DPMS AR 10 .308.
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