BTW Dimitri check out Butch Searcy website , you can have a PH model double for only $10,500 or so ..
Jack

Jack!

Thats interesting I will check it out

I only saw doubles for like 5+ times the cost

Dimitri

I bought my Kreighoff in 1985 for $9800 , sold it for about $1000 more than I paid for it in 1987 , bought the Merkel with that money , and sold it about five years ago for $2500 more than I paid for it ..
Most European ( not English ) and American doubles .500 caliber and under , if you dont care for all the fancy engraving and such , can be had at reasonable prices compared to English doubles ..
The Searcy is the most accurate of them all , I will never own another Kreighoff ..
Jack

Thanks for the tips Jack!

Ones I'm out of college and building my collection I'm going to add one of these

Dimitri

HOLY COW!!! The Pucker factor riz just LOOKING at that! I think I'll go have another glass of Geritol!

1895ss wrote:

Well as long as I had my 45-70 in my hands I would feel safe ............... I think! One never knows how you would re-act until confronted in that way. You make a mistake and you're dead. Yep me and my 45-70 would have been OK.

You've got that right !

sorry guys 45.70 wont make it

dick1208 , ahh someone who agrees with me , finally , seems the current rage in the states now is Africa and DG with a 45/70 ...

The 45-70 is indeed a lightweight when compared to the 600 or 700 NE. However, there are 45-70s and there are 45-70s. The 45-70 in a Mdl 98 Mauser action is a thing of real beauty, a thumper first class. But then, GJ, we got the "Lott a gun" to smoke em, don't we?

Not one rhino on the beach yet.... Some hippos but no rhinos.
Ed

Something like knifing a 100kg pig.. the difference is you got only 2 shots where a knife could be used again and again.

Dimitri, I think there is a russian double that goes for about $1000 they are in .308 if I am not wrong..

They do import Russian rifles yes. But when I do manage to save up enough for one, its going to be one for Dangerous Game and the 308Win wont cut it.

Dimitri

HeHe Swampie , yep my 45/70 sports a 2.8" case ..

I seen buffalo and even a few elephants in Destin myself

I read an article in "Rifle" magazine, or one of the others from that company, some time back where the author killed two Cape Buffalo with one shot from a Marlin .45-70. I think they were Corbon loads. Bullet penetrated completely through a bull and killed a cow behind it. In the Marlin the .45-70 can be loaded to the level of the old .450 Black Powder Express, which was popular in Africa early on. I saw another article recently about using broad-meplat bullets in the .45-70 on African game. It's not the cannon that a .458 Win Mag and up are but its certainly capable.

Dimitri, I saw a Remington Spartan (Russian made) double .30-06 for about $850 the other day. I too would like a double rifle but want something a little bigger. I've been real tempted to get the Pedersoli double muzzle loader in .58 cal, since I already shoot some .58s. It's not an elephant gun but it would be a lot of fun!

I'd take a double in 45-70 if it had a strong action and have it rechambered to 45-120. THAT would work as a elephant gun I believe.

Dimitri

Pedersoli makes a double .45-70 for about $3k I think. The muzzle loaders are around $900. Look for their "Kodiak" rifles.