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tlo7mm Super Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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My brother called me up this evening and wanted me to research an issue he is having with his brass. He has a large amount of Wolf 45 ACP brass and found that the primer pockets on some of them are greatly undersized. Has anyone heard of this issue and what is the solution? I thought that he may be able to solve it using a primer pocket reamer but I am not sure if they are so undersized that he would run the risk of damaging the brass by using the primer pocket reamer.
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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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Well, I have a box of magtech brass 45LC with oversized primer pocket that made it unusable, because any primer I put in would simply slide out.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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They aren't sized for a small primer, are they? Seems that I read someplace that some .45 Autos were loaded with small primers instead of large.
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tlo7mm Super Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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Well only some of the brass primer holes were undersized so if that is the case I would think they were mixed in by mistake with ones that take large pistol primers. I will do some more looking into it and hopefully find out some more. Thanks for the info. If anyone comes up with anymore info I would appriciate it. Thanks pumpkinslinger.
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chambered221 Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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Pumpkinslinger wrote: |
They aren't sized for a small primer, are they? Seems that I read someplace that some .45 Autos were loaded with small primers instead of large. |
If I remember correctly that was Winchester WinClean ammo !!!
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tlo7mm Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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I am sorry I listed the ammo wrong on the title of the pst, he is sizing blazer cases. but he said he has some that do not even have a head stamp so I am not even sure which brass he has this issue with. I will try to find out for sure.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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That Winchester winclean ammo is also has a lead free bullet, I've seen it also labeled as Winchester NT for non-toxic which has the small primers. Federal champion line in 45acp is also EPA friendly and I read someplace that the bullet was Zinc? This has also spread to the 9mm luger, 38spl, 40 S&W and 45 acp.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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tlo7mm wrote: |
I am sorry I listed the ammo wrong on the title of the pst, he is sizing blazer cases. but he said he has some that do not even have a head stamp so I am not even sure which brass he has this issue with. I will try to find out for sure. |
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Dawgdad Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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Eitherway - Blazer is aluminum case and Wolf is steel case and Berdan primed that are not ususally reloaded...Make sure what type of ammo it is and if it is brass cased boxer primed
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chambered221 Super Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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Both Blazer and Wolf have re-loadable brass !!!
I've re-loaded some of the Blazer Brass and found flash holes to be slightly off center.
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SingleShotLover Super Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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Blazer originally started as aluminum cases and Wolf had steel. Both have now switched to brass. Make certain of which type you have.
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ElyBoy Super Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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I believe that Blazer uses small pistol primers.
Anytime that my large pistol primer won't fit, it is always Blazer brass.
I'm sure that this is the problem.
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chambered221 Super Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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The Blazers I loaded were all large pistol !!!
Another thought has just occurred......is it possible he's got some 45 GAP mixed in...... it uses a small primer !!!
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RePete Super Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:57 am Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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If you can load them the first time on a Dillon 1050, the primer pockets will be swaged to the correct size.
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moose2 Super Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Wolf 45 ACP brass |
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I have some Federal 45 ACP brass that is also primed with small pistol primers. Just another thing to have to keep sorted.
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