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shrpshtrjoe
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 Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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| Bushmaster wrote: |
And we do need to push for a U.S. wide permit or do away with the permit system all to gather and just carry... |
Thats the answer right there bushy. Thats exactly what needs to happen.
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OntheLasGallinas
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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Bushy,
I'll go along with that also.
I'll have to say no on the Valium. You can't be an effective sharp-shooter if you're null and void. Besides, rage is what kept me focused in Vietnam.
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chambered221
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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Cary, honestly I didn’t intend to stir you like that !!! 
But, if you need to vent a little more go right ahead I can take it !!!
Please just don’t pop a vein in the process !!!
National carry 
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OntheLasGallinas
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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chambered221,
You da man!  Everytning's cool!
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chambered221
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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Nooooo, I not da man !!!
They expect way tooooo much from you when you da man !!! 
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Vince
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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| OntheLasGallinas wrote: |
| Besides, rage is what kept me focused in Vietnam. Cary |
Rage is not a good thing Cary....now if you said controlled aggression...controlled aggression is much more effective than blind rage.
Not convinced that "do away with the permit system all to gather and just carry..." as Bushy suggests is a good thing, in fact I think it would be a step backward. Its great for the law abiding citizens, but then there are no checks and balances on those that need to be "checked and balanced", ie criminals, mentally unstable people etc.
The permit system would most benefit from being revisited and made into a National Permit rather than a State Permit....and kept right away from the bureaucrats...although I'm damned if I know how you would do that.
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Pumpkinslinger
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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One of the big gun gurus, I can't remember which, once said that we should just allow everyone to carry guns for the simple reason that there are more good guys than bad guys and eventually things would settle out.
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Bushmaster
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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Vince...There two states that have no CCW permits. everyone can carry concealed. Their view is just what Pumpkinslinger stated. Alaska is one and I can't remember the other one, but Vermont sticks in my mind. And there hasn't been shoot outs in the streets of either states.
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roklok
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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Alaska allows carry without a license or permit as long as you are not a felon. I believe Vermont is the same. Alaska will issue a concealed carry license for reciprocity with other states, but for carry in state, none is needed. When I resided in PA I got my License to carry a firearm when I turned 21, carried every day after. I am now a police officer in Alaska and consider the biggest benefit of my profession not my retirement, insurance, or on job excitement, but the ability for law enforcement officers to carry off-duty nationwide under legislation in HR218. I think similar legislation should be passed for nationwide reciprocity for concealed carry license holders, just as one states drivers license is honored in all states.
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dust54
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:52 am Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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Cary,
I could not agree with you more strongly than to re-state what you said, with a little modification.
The right to self-defense is a God given right, the government is just suppose to protect that right from being trampled on.
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OntheLasGallinas
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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Vince,
That's what I meant. I'm always in control.
Cary
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Vince
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| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:00 am Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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'A17Shooter"]I thought you were married?? [/quote]
Just a slip of the tongue mate...he probably meant "always UNDER control" .
Its like when I say to my missus... "I've got my finger on the pulse"....she just laughs and says.."more like you've got your hand on it"  
Cheers, Vince
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Bushmaster
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| Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Conceal Carry Permits |
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Yup...Married...UNDER control...
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