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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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great stuff. I looked in the lyman manual and their slugs are both heavier than what you have. nearest I could figure yours are close to 15/16oz and 1 and 1/16th oz as 7/8 is 382.8 and 1oz is 437.5grns. you SHOULD be able to work off the loads in your manual as the slugs you have are lighter than the ones in the load data. only fly in the ointment could be sabot vs wad???? the loads in lyman are honking along at 1500fps etc so you should be able to play around and sort what works best for you.
great to hear they cycle fine you must be getting them right.
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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OK got to the range today before doing pistol drills I set up on the rifle range . Shot at 75 yards both slugs and both crimps shot pretty much the same avg 2.5 " groups which I was hoping to be a little better but that is minute of deer . My biggest concern is un burnt powder there was a fair amount of un burnt powder. The loading data given with the slugs suggested this load and charge now blue dot is the slowest powders they suggested I would think a faster powder should eliminate this issue shouldn't it ? .. Maybe Ill try Herco I have data for that What I have is acceptable but I thing I would to try and get it better and I don't much care to waste powder .. Any thought would be appreciated
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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I've been following this and even thou I use old tools that still work, I'm interested in the link Joe provided for the roll crimper.
Here is a pic of what i've been using over the years, these are from my Granpa.
And here is another pic of load data that I use.
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:40 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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Ive seen those for sale and never been able to work out what they were!!!!
I take it they are both roll crimpers??? or do you use one then finish with other???
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:01 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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They are both roll crimpers, but for different calibers.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:22 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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Yes both roll crimpers, top one was made by "Diana" and will do 2 1/2" - 3 1/2" cases. The bottom one is of unknown orgin and will work up to 3" cases.
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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Well I talked to slugsrus today and talked to to the gentleman that designed the sabots very nice man I talked to him about the unburnt powder issue with the blue dot and he said it is a common issue with the blue dot so he said I should not have the issues with Herco or the IMR 4756 so I will see whats available locally and go from there. He said he knows blue dot isn't a great choice but its almost always available that's why he has it listed it was also the reason I got the blue dot in the first place they didn't have the other two..
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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thats good customer service. I see in the lyman manual that you may have to play around a bit to get a good group...somewhere I read that some guns prefer the 2 3/4" and some the 3", sounds like a great excuse for more trigger time testing them.
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:37 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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ya once I get a powder that burns efficiently Ill adjust the charge and see what shoots best. It may be tough to find one of the other powders locally.. Ill make some calls and see whats available ...
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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One good powder that I use is Imr 800x (Hi Skor 800x), burns clean, leaves no unburnt powder at all in my shotguns, accurate and is pretty versatile in heavier caliber handguns too.
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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Ominivision1 wrote: |
One good powder that I use is Imr 800x (Hi Skor 800x), burns clean, leaves no unburnt powder at all in my shotguns, accurate and is pretty versatile in heavier caliber handguns too. |
He said they were testing with the 800x but too early to post data for it. I found a pound of IMR 4756 so Ill try it ..
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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I wouldn't let the unburnt powder be a deciding factor !!!
Blue Dot is known to be a dirty powder but is also known as a good powder.
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:37 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Slugs |
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chambered221 wrote: |
I wouldn't let the unburnt powder be a deciding factor !!!
Blue Dot is known to be a dirty powder but is also known as a good powder. |
If it ends up being the most accurate powder Ill deal with the unburnt powder. I just felt if it wasn't getting a complete burn that my accuracy would suffer.. The IMR shows good velocity as well ..
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