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Gil Martin Super Member
Joined: Jan 28, 2005 Posts: 1839 Location: Schnecksville, PA
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 8:07 am Post subject: They get it all wrong |
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Have you good folks ever noticed how people not familiar with firearms get it all wrong? The media are about the worst. When they report on someone having a stash of firearms, it often gets reported that they had an "arsenal" when it is more likely an armory. We know that an arsenal is a factory where guns are made and an armory is where guns are stored. Your local National Guard Armory is never called an arsenal because they merely store firearms.
Every semi-automatic firearm may be called an "assault rifle." One media report called a 1911A1 .45 ACP an "assault pistol." What is that? When a shotgun is involved it may be called a .12 gauge or a .20 gauge which is about the bore diameter of a phonograph needle. A scoped deer rifle may be called a "sniper rifle". I guess no one proofreads the copy. Even the sporting magazines seem unable to identify firearms. The editor of a national shooting magazine thanked me for pointing out that their picture of a German Kar98k Mauser was really a Yugoslav Model 48. It goes on and on.
I read a lot of books and some authors are better than others. Tom Clancy gets it right almost all the time and the same is usually true with Clive Cussler. I share books with friends and they laugh when they see where I have made corrections in the text. The most common error is when magazines are called "clips". We know that clips may feed magazines,but magazines feed weapons.
These are just the idle thoughts of an idle fellow. All the best...
Gil
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11394 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:49 am Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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But being shot (murdered) by a scoped hunting rifle doesn't sound as good as being shot (murdered) by a sniper rifle.
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15723 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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“Gil” wrote: |
The media are about the worst. |
Mate, one thing I have learned over the years is that the media never let the truth get in the way of a good story. If they can’t sensationalise things, it is useless to them. I wonder how they would report on and classify an English Long Bow...”an Assault Bow”, and a knight’s war horse...an “Assault Horse”? Then of course there is always the agenda of the media outlet owner. The journos have to suck up to the boss if they want to get ahead.
At the end of the day it is damned annoying the way they report things...just to satisfy an agenda, sell papers, or just to get their name in print in a by line.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8316 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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Yes, like the Congresswoman that thought that once a 30-round magazine was empty it had to be thrown away.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9259 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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SingleShotLover Super Member
Joined: Dec 26, 2007 Posts: 1005 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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Never let facts get in the way of a good story.
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Tremblay Super Member
Joined: Oct 08, 2007 Posts: 2656 Location: Malta, Montana
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:01 am Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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Its gonna leave a mark
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9259 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:14 am Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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sheilah at top will be lucky not to loose an eye...as for the bottom photo,not sure where it taken and it what context but SLRs and maybe lee enfields spells some sort of back woods military..the belt buckles caught my eye as they the same....the sling on SLR is in interesting position too.its similar on 2nd rifle in line up....weird full stop.
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:38 am Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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sorry to hi-jack thread
did you guys see the cover of Time magazine????
the story was bust wide open tonight here....what a farse,talk about "out of context"
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pete4d Super Member
Joined: Nov 27, 2011 Posts: 957 Location: Dixie , Alabama , & Louisiana
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:56 am Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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Both the FAL's rear sight folded down ?
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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yip...wondered that myself
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DallanC Site Admin
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3572 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:20 am Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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My biggest annoyance is with the media and AR15s, primarily that they are all high capacity, rapid bullet firing weapons. They dont realize (or acknowledge):
There are AR15s with Bolt Action uppers.
There are AR15s with Pump Shotgun uppers.
There is even a AR15 Muzzleloader upper.
Pushing for a ban on a AR15 just because its an AR15... even if its a muzzleloader variant, all the while ignoring the Mini14 or Mini30, its ludicrous.
You cant even have a rational conversation with these people.
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11394 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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I don't even try, Mr. Dallan. I have gotten tired of being talked over or shouted down.
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: They get it all wrong |
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They have quit making exceptions. The antigun billionaires are pushing a ban on all semi-auto guns that can use magazines with a capacity higher than 10 rounds. This is being pushed in Washington and Oregon.
As I understand it the Oregon bill will not make it to the ballot. I believe the Washington bill will.
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