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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15725 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: Too late for guns? |
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October 10, 2008
Fellow Sportsman,
Hello, my name is Rich Pearson and I have been active in the firearm rights movement for over 40 years. For the past 15 years, I have served in the Illinois state capitol as the chief lobbyist for the Illinois State Rifle Association.
I lobbied Barack Obama extensively while he was an Illinois State Senator. As a result of that experience, I know Obama’s attitudes toward guns and gun owners better than anyone. The truth be told, in all my years in the Capitol I have never met a legislator who harbors more contempt for the law-abiding firearm owner than Barack Obama.
Although Obama claims to be an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, his voting record in the Illinois Senate paints a very different picture. While a state senator, Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners and forcibly confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer. Obama also voted for a bill that would prohibit law-abiding citizens from purchasing more than one gun per month.
Without a doubt, Barack Obama has proven himself to be an enemy of the law abiding firearm owner. At the same time, Obama has proven himself to be a friend to the hardened criminal. While a state senator, Obama voted 4 times against legislation that would allow a homeowner to use a firearm in defense of home and family.
Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a “friend” of the law-abiding gun owner?
And speaking of friends, you can always tell a person by the company they keep. Obama counts among his friends the Rev. Michael Pfleger - a renegade Chicago priest who has openly called for the murder of gun shop owners and pro-gun legislators. Then there is his buddy Richard Daley, the mayor of Chicago who has declared that if it were up to him, nobody would be allowed to own a gun. And let’s not forget Obama’s pal George Soros - the guy who has pumped millions of dollars into the UN’s international effort to disarm law-abiding citizens.
Obama has shown that he is more than willing to use other people’s money to fund his campaign to take your guns away from you. While a board member of the leftist Joyce Foundation, Barack Obama wrote checks for tens of millions of dollars to extremist gun control organizations such as the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence and the Violence Policy Center.
Does Barack Obama still sound to you like a “friend” of the law-abiding gun owner?
By now, I’m sure that many of you have received mailings from an organization called “American Hunters and Shooters Association(AHSA)” talking about what a swell fellow Obama is and how he honors the 2nd Amendment and how you will never have to worry about Obama coming to take your guns. Let me make it perfectly clear - everything the AHSA says about Obama is pure hogwash.
The AHSA is headed by a group of left-wing elitists who subscribe to the British view of hunting and shooting. That is, a state of affairs where hunting and shooting are reserved for the wealthy upper-crust who can afford guided hunts on exclusive private reserves. The AHSA is not your friend, never will be.
In closing, I’d like to remind you that I’m a guy who has actually gone nose to nose with Obama on gun rights issues.
The Obama I know cannot even begin to identify with this nation’s outdoor traditions.
The Obama I know sees you, the law abiding gun owner, as nothing but a low-class lummox who is easily swayed by the flash of a smile and a ration of rosy rhetoric.
The Obama I know is a stony-faced liar who has honed his skill at getting what he wants - so long as people are willing to give it to him.
That’s the Barack Obama I know.
Sincerely,
(original signed)
Richard A. Pearson
Executive Director
Illinois State Rifle Association
420 E. Locust, P.O. Box 637 , Chatsworth , IL 60921
Phone: (815) 635-3198 or (815) 635-3166 Fax: (815) 635-3723
Website: www.isra.org
Cheers, Vince
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Illegitimi non carborundum
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Weinbender Member
Joined: Sep 13, 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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i was advised to delete this post
_________________ "If it dont kick like a mule, it aint worth shooting"
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11395 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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Weinbender...You need to look at your gun restriction (laws) when you say that.
One other thing...We don't talk like that about our president. Even if we do not like him or his ideas or plans. Please refrain from anything even bordering on threats to the U.S. President...Please.
Let us know how you come out on your sighting in...Photos of targets would be nice...
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wy111 Member
Joined: Jun 02, 2005 Posts: 114 Location: N. Yorkshire, U.K. ( Pomgolia)
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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"The AHSA is headed by a group of left-wing elitists who subscribe to the British view of hunting and shooting. That is, a state of affairs where hunting and shooting are reserved for the wealthy upper-crust who can afford guided hunts on exclusive private reserves."
That statement is the biggest load of C%&p to come out of an Amercan's mouth I have heard in years. It shows that he not one iota of an idea of what happens in our country, so how can he verbalise about what's going on in the USA.
Approx 95% of hunting and shooting is carried on by the ordinary, hard working, joe public, as in the USA or for that, anywhere else in the world, who have to save to buy a gun or a days shooting, not as he calls "The upper crust". Where did he dig that one from, the doomsday book?
I would very reluctant to take onboard, information, from someone who doesn't have a clue on what happens elsewhere.
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9261 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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good on you bushy I could not agree more. that is one of the first things my kids were taught never to say.you do not threaten to shoot anybody or the boys n girls in blue can come take your guns and gun licence and you wont get them back.
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Dimitri Super Member
Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 5947
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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Elvis wrote: |
you do not threaten to shoot anybody |
That is entirely it. No one is worth the risk of losing all your rights and freedoms over a dumb comment.
Dimitri
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English Mike Super Member
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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wy111 wrote: |
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"The AHSA is headed by a group of left-wing elitists who subscribe to the British view of hunting and shooting. That is, a state of affairs where hunting and shooting are reserved for the wealthy upper-crust who can afford guided hunts on exclusive private reserves."
That statement is the biggest load of C%&p to come out of an Amercan's mouth I have heard in years. It shows that he not one iota of an idea of what happens in our country, so how can he verbalise about what's going on in the USA.
Approx 95% of hunting and shooting is carried on by the ordinary, hard working, joe public, as in the USA or for that, anywhere else in the world, who have to save to buy a gun or a days shooting, not as he calls "The upper crust". Where did he dig that one from, the doomsday book?
I would very reluctant to take onboard, information, from someone who doesn't have a clue on what happens elsewhere. |
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Wot wy111 says.
Email going off to the ISRA pointing out the inaccuracies of this statement.
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ElyBoy Super Member
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 1541 Location: Forest Lake Minnesota
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15725 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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_________________ Cheers, Vince
Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)
Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.
"Nulla Si Fa Senza Volonta."
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English Mike Super Member
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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Had an automated acknowledgement this morning.
I'll pester him if he doesn't reply.
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Weinbender Member
Joined: Sep 13, 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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_________________ "If it dont kick like a mule, it aint worth shooting" |
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11395 Location: Ava, Missouri
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dick1208 Rookie Member
Joined: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 7 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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Well done you guys.........see you won the election! (heeheehaahaa)
O.......Hi Vince
Hope you guys dont go our way with the Legislation
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11395 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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Thanks, dick1208, for your "condolences". But we haven't "lost" yet...
_________________ I have one nerve left and yer standin' on it...
DEMOCRACY Two wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for lunch...
LIBERTY A well armed sheep contesting the outcome of the vote... |
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K.W. Super Member
Joined: Mar 19, 2007 Posts: 348 Location: Finland
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Too late for guns? |
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Hello fellows.
There was pentition to Finlands Minister of the Interior. Many peole will to forbid handgus shorter than 23,5". Ihave 6 handguns, but only one is ok. It is T/C Contender .357 Rem Max 14" barrell with silencer. The silencer must to weld to the barrell.
Autsch, I have one moor "legal hand gun" too: T/C Contender pistol with .223Rem 21"-long carbine barell.
I am not certain, must I to laugh or cry.
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