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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:20 am Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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HE got a plurry good chew just after I snotted it, left some love bites on its front legs,for those who are puzzled by the kiwi expression murawaied is maori for singed to remove hair(got to love that crackling)
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:02 am Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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Here is the grouping at 200 yards. The 62gr TTSX was exceptional. The 70gr GMX was also good. I'm going to work these loads some more to see if I can improve their grouping. Looks like I'll need to use my Lapua brass for the SMK if its going to compete for group size.
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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murawaied???
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lesterg3 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:16 am Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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Sorry for the post got the explanation after I queried murawaied.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:09 am Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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Looks good Elvis, yum bacon.
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44marty Super Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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VERY nice shooting Slim.
Elvis, that hog looks like some sweet eating. Almost makes me wish there were hogs running around here. Nah, I'll pass. It's unnerving enough already that bears are likely to come charging in when we call coyotes. The woods are quite thick around here - don't think I'd like stumbling across those tuskers when out deer hunting. I would definitely change from sitting on the ground to using a tree stand.
Dang- that photo of the Aussie Hogzilla is something. Sure wouldn't use a .223 on that bugger. He looks like a great reason to carry a 300 Mag or a .375H&H
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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I got back out to the range today. A cool 50-deg F with a gust wind around 15 mph so I did my shooting at 100 yards. I started with the 16" S&W followed by the 24" WOA with select loads for the 62gr TTSX and 70gr GMX. Here are the results with the S&W.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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It was nice to see the tight groups with the 53gr TSX, 62gr TTSX, and 77gr SMK. Not sure what happened with the 62gr TSX. I've shot those through this rifle before and they hadn't done that badly. Neither rifle seemed to like the 62gr TSX. Both liked the 62gr TTSX. When I weight a dozen rounds, I was surprised to see how consistent the TTSX were - all within 62.0 and 62.1. You don't see consistency like that in many hunting bullets, match bullets yes. So far, these range sessions have shown that the new 62gr TTSX and 70gr GMX have good accuracy and came in at 1 MOA or less in both rifles. The velocity advantage of the 24" barrel is readily apparent. I'll post some more thought tomorrow.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:16 am Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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Wonder what happened with that 62gr tsx load?
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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the 53 likes the slower twist aye??? Imay have to try some.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:50 am Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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Here are the results of some load development with the 24" WOA. Its nice to see both rounds do better than MOA. Very consistent POI. Looks like I could step the 62gr TTSX up to 25.5 and the GMX down to 23.8 and try for a tighter group but both these are fine for hunting. BTW, I used Remington brass and primers. The 77gr SMKs do better in Lapua brass. I included the best groups in the data table above. Now I need to take the 62gr TTSX out and get a down range velocity so I can figure its BC and be able to compare Energy. Even though the GMX is about 200 fps slower, its lower BC may give it the longer range advantage.
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Hunting with the .223 |
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and now I know my Zastava has a 1 in 12 twist what the blue blazes is going to work for me I may just have stick to the 52grn hp speers they seem to be doing the biz. I have just worked out I have fired my .223 8 times at pigs resulting in 8 dead piles of pork. the only one that went further than 6 " was a 60lb sow shot in the neck with a 50 grn sp at about 175yrd and she just fell over and rolled down the hill stone dead. at least she rolled towards the track.the largest pig was around the 120lb mark.
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