Flint54 wrote: |
:? Nice Buck and Welcome to the Site.
As far as the Savage ML, I have read some things that I don't know what to believe? This rifle was designed to be used with a certain smokeless powder at a specified charge. Being that I am unfamiliar with all of the details I reserve judgement on the rifle and its "Questionable Problems". I will say this though, I have a fair number of Savage Rifles and have not ever had any problem with them, I am very impressed with the accuracy and the quality that you get for the price. I don't believe that a Major Company in the US would keep a product in its line if there were known or perceived problems with it as I have read in various threads and statements. Just be advised that if you do get this Muzzleloader and you do use smokeless powder, "Follow the Manufacturers Instructions Completely", do not substitute the recommended powder and do not use charges higher than listed in their instructions. Best of all, use Black Powder or a similar substitute such as Pyrodex, Clear Shot, Triple 7 etc.
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Hello all again and thanks for the welcomes- the savage has been one of my "pet' guns for the last couple years- its as addictive as any gun I've ever had-.. the ONLY questionable problem with the Savage came from 1 guy that was employed by Savage to promote the MLII and was found to be putting out false test/velositys/ect among other things.....he was then fired from Savage -shortly after his firing this 'Expert's" gun mysteriously "exploded" the barrel- and tried (unsuccessfully) to extort money from savage- (He had NO injuries at all!} most think a long pull string was involved...(and get this- he still uses a savage 10MLII) enough of him... The MLII has been evolving over the past couple years and the Smokeless powders used have migrated away from the first powders used( lil'gun, 2400, 4227) these were fast 'pistol' powders that develope high pressure quickly to get a velosity in the 2200 fps range- but barrel pressures with fast powders are very sensitive to just a couple gr. weight difference. Now we are seeing meny more users shooting slower 'rifle' powders like 4198, 2015 and 322 - and barrel pressure is down,velosity is up past 2500FPS and accuracy is great. we are in the ballpark of the old 45/70 & .458 Winchester cased loads... Uh-Oh-I think I've put some guys to sleep here with my ramblings-sorry about that- take a peek if you're curious over at Doug's board
dougva.proboards34.com...ard=Savage I think I'll start a link an a more primitive gun- the underhammer muzzleloader- it's been lively on another board.. thanks for your patience

Rick