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squirrelbait Member
Joined: Sep 23, 2005 Posts: 220 Location: Nottingham, NH
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:26 am Post subject: tweaking a load for group size |
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Been reload for some time.......it's the only way to go if you like to shoot.
I remember at some point......it's an age thing maybe, that there were general "guide lines" for how to tweak your powder charge depending on shape of the fired group, i.e. if it was strung out vertically then reduce/increase charge? Any words of wisdom on this?
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DallanC Site Admin
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3585 Location: Utah
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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Welcome to the site squirrelbait.
IMO pure horizonal or vertical groups tend to indicate a barrel bedding problem. I had a .270 that had horrible horizonal strings. I removed the barrel from the stock and ground down the pressure point Remington puts on their M700's, reassembled and took it out to shoot. I was rewarded with 1MOA groups. After a shot the barrel would come to rest at different points along the horizonal pressure point... removing that allowed for the barrel to return to its natural point.
I havent noticed personally, strings associated with a specific powder amount... groups either open up or remain tight I've found. Perhaps someone here might have some different advice though.
-DallanC
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 2965 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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Howdy. Dallan probably hit the nail on the head But it could also be not letting the barrel cool enough i have seen hot barrels string groups as well. Good luck !!
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GroovyJack Member
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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Welcome sqwerlly , and yes I remember that .. Jeesh you must be an old poot too , cause it has been many years ago that I saw that .. But dont ask anymore cause I forgot
Jack
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11429 Location: Ava, Missouri
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ghall Member
Joined: Sep 08, 2005 Posts: 32 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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I heard that it could be the primer, that causes the strings.
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SwampFox Super Member
Joined: Jul 15, 2005 Posts: 1040 Location: Destin, Florida
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Bushmaster Super Member
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GroovyJack Member
Joined: May 21, 2005 Posts: 621 Location: Bama
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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Who u callin a chief cook , I werent no cook or jack o dust .. I were a GUNNER ..
Jack
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11429 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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And, Jack...You also can't read. Check SwampFoxes Profile...Gunnersmates and Bos'nsmates...Not much difference there that I can see....
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GroovyJack Member
Joined: May 21, 2005 Posts: 621 Location: Bama
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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Yah well Bushy I dont read peeples profiles too much .. May find old ladies boyfriend in there ..
BoatSwain Mate ?? How dare yeh !!
Big difference between fowled anchors and crossed cannons ..
Sides I didnt sit next to a cockswain like some folks here ..
Least you was a semi fresh air hole snipe ..
Jack
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11429 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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Nope...Absolutely a Blackshoe Snipe. Main propusion Diesel...Destroyer, submarine, submarine tender, harbor tug, Hydrofoil, torpedo test firing ships, small boats and a mine sweeper. One non-diesel ship in there too. An ammunition ship (steam). Crossed anchors, crossed cannons. from a distance (and I was) they look the same to me...
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GroovyJack Member
Joined: May 21, 2005 Posts: 621 Location: Bama
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:22 am Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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Better keep yur distance ..
Yeah sounds like you was a genuine " hole snipe "
Who hijacked this ??
Jack
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SwampFox Super Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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Ha, ho, ha, ha
Just saw the post yesterday, but point well made, I think,,,, now what was that you were saying..... um zzzzzz. Oh, oh, yeh, awake again, Chief cook and bottle washer refers to being a leader of men, ah, well, actually women. I own a couple of companies, we employ all women, so I am boss to a gaggle of females. They think I am a wonderful human being, hum, me thinks it is near Christmas and near time for their bonus?
I wore the crossed cannons for a few years, 40 years ago. At the time, I was a young sargent/chief surveyor in the 101st. Recondo school in 67, then spent most of my time as an FO and in the woods playing with the indians. I will be 60 in a few months.
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11429 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: tweaking a load for group size |
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Humph!!! SwampFox is just a kid....And Yup Jack...I am a genuine "Hole Snipe". Only came out after dark....
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