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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15875 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:25 am Post subject: WTF |
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I have no information on this other than what you see in the pics. I’m thinking a possible overload is to blame.
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pete4d Super Member
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9350 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: WTF |
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well my guess is the think is poked...plain n simply poked.....time to buy a new one....
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dhc4ever Super Member
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 2944 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Australia
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: WTF |
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Now THAT takes talent.
Special school type talent, but talent never the less.
Seriously I can think of at least 3 things that might contribute to this, 4 if the owner is a moron.
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English Mike Super Member
Joined: Jan 08, 2007 Posts: 1709 Location: Whitehaven, Cumbria, UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: WTF |
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Bolt lugs look OK as does the barrel, so I can't see it being overpressure.
Possibly the bolt not quite fully rotated into battery.
Trodden on when propped up, fallen with or run over would be my guess.
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DallanC Site Admin
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3589 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: WTF |
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English Mike wrote: |
Bolt lugs look OK as does the barrel, so I can't see it being overpressure.
Possibly the bolt not quite fully rotated into battery.
Trodden on when propped up, fallen with or run over would be my guess. |
Either way, it was DEFINITELY cracked around that area before it was fired.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8317 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: WTF |
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The upper is well used, abused, and worn out. I'm with Elvis, this was "poked" to many time with the gas piston. Should have stayed with direct impingement as the rifle was originally designed to operate.
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dhc4ever Super Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: WTF |
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So out of the MILLIONS of AR 15 platforms in use, how many have failed like this?
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: WTF |
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first I have seen, but notice that it is not a mil-spec upper receiver.
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PaulS Super Member
Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: WTF |
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No, but it separated at the threads on the upper receiver. I don't see a radius cut at the end of the threads. If you were going to see a fracture that is the exact place.
Also, bear in mind that aluminum has a limited number of cycles before fatigue failures happen. There is no aluminum alloy that can get past that weakness in aluminum.
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inthedark Super Member
Joined: Jan 31, 2011 Posts: 920 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:19 am Post subject: Re: WTF |
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I would have to concur with the upper failing from metal fatigue and there almost appears to me to be a question on the timing of this rifle as there is a consistent amount of burnt powder on the chamber end and the push rod which would lead me to believe that there is a greater amount gas blow by on the push rod. I base this on having a good deal of experience with the FN LAR//Cdn FN C1A1 which has a push rod and a gas adjustment also 1-9 setting and reverse for grenade launching. I would be interested in seeing the gas block and ammunition fired /loaded for this HK.
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:22 am Post subject: Re: WTF |
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Paul...You want to edit that? Just askin'...
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PaulS Super Member
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Deleted_User_13284 Member
Joined: Oct 10, 2021 Posts: 127
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:37 am Post subject: Re: WTF |
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I hear jb weld is pretty good stuff
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