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Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:05 pm    Post subject: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

hodgdon.com/hodgdon-acquisitions/

Ramshot, Accurate, and Blackhorn 209 now a part of the Hodgdon family

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

their company won my seal of approval when I saw their statement of intent on website....
they have good reloading data site which is easy to use as third source of info when checking a load.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

thanks for letting us know, hunterjoe. Elvis, you are right. Their website is the best and I use it all the time for checking load data.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

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Blackhorn 209

That stuff is so overpriced for what it its. Its FILTHY when shot... I got talked into it as a miracle cure to fouling. BS... 2 shots w/o cleaning and groups wander. 3 shots, and a patch comes out completely black and caked.

Its not even a pound... for almost $50. I'm back to pyro with a patch between shots (when hunting, I keep a dozen or so patches lightly damp with windex in a ziplock bag, its easy to grab one out and run it through the barrel.

Anywho, it will be interesting to see if the price changes much.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

Dallan,,, You can always send me the left over BH-209, I get better groups with it than anything else I've tried in my old 45-70 gov trapdoor. Cheers

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

hunterjoe21 wrote:
https://hodgdon.com/hodgdon-acquisitions/

Ramshot, Accurate, and Blackhorn 209 now a part of the Hodgdon family

Who exactly is in their family?

Hodgdon, Winchester, IMR, Ramshot, Accurate, Blackhorn 209.

Have I left anybody out?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

mulwex/ADI whoever they are now.... has to be because AR2213sc is H4831sc in different pottle.
this has been case for some time.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

5string wrote:
hunterjoe21 wrote:
https://hodgdon.com/hodgdon-acquisitions/

Ramshot, Accurate, and Blackhorn 209 now a part of the Hodgdon family

Who exactly is in their family?

Hodgdon, Winchester, IMR, Ramshot, Accurate, Blackhorn 209.

Have I left anybody out?

GOEX black powder.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:22 am    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

Different "bottles" for the same powder is common. Hodgdon sells Winchester powders and their Hodgdon powders separately even though the same powders are used in both brands. W231 and HP38 are the same powder as are W296 and H110 and W760 and H414.
Twin powders under separate labels are kept because of brand familiarity / preference. Why lose customers over a label?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

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Our mission is to provide quality propellants,other products,and services to sportsmen,governing units,and other businesses in a manner which enhances the quality of life for our stockholders,employees,customers,associates,and suppliers.
In doing so we will deal with integrity and honesty,reflecting that people are more important than dollars and that our purpose is to bring credit to our Lord Jesus Christ.

AMEN to that....

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

Elvis wrote:
mulwex/ADI whoever they are now.... has to be because AR2213sc is H4831sc in different pottle.
this has been case for some time.

I don't think ADI are owned by Hodgdon. They make powder for them, but are owned by Thales Australia. Separate company if I'm not mistaken.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

5string wrote:
Elvis wrote:
mulwex/ADI whoever they are now.... has to be because AR2213sc is H4831sc in different pottle.
this has been case for some time.

I don't think ADI are owned by Hodgdon. They make powder for them, but are owned by Thales Australia. Separate company if I'm not mistaken.

Correct mate. Mulwex became ADI became Thales. They have been producing powders for many years now. They also used to produce and supply explosives for military use...not sure if they still do though. They supply powder to the industry, military and sporting shooters.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

PaulS wrote:
Different "bottles" for the same powder is common. Hodgdon sells Winchester powders and their Hodgdon powders separately even though the same powders are used in both brands. W231 and HP38 are the same powder as are W296 and H110 and W760 and H414.

I didn't realize this. Just went to their database and sure enough the W760 and H414 loads are the same .... and I've been using these two powders for years thinking they were different.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

so does thales make it for Hodgdon or the other way around???

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:16 am    Post subject: Re: Hodgdon Powders Makes Acquisition Reply with quote

Elvis wrote:
so does thales make it for Hodgdon or the other way around???

Thales make it for Hodgdon.

I have heard that Hodgdon have never made any powder themselves, but bought in powder and sold it.

IIRC they started post ww2 repurposing surplus munitions into sporting rifle powders.

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