Camel pests in Australia

Dimitri · Super Member Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 5946

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Dimitri. Shiela is an "affectionate" term (definitely not derogatory) used to describe an Aussie woman. It is a term that has been around for a lot of years. As for them being tough....well have you ever seen a woman kick start a 747? But seriosly, aussie women in the outback need to be tough because it is not uncommon to see them working alongside the men and every bit as hard. My eldest daughter worked as a Jillaroo (like a cowboy) on a 100 square mile cattle station (and that's a small one) for 12 months and I didn't recognise her when she came home.

Humm I see I thought it was a flower. Embarassed

Mind you the right Aussie girl might be like a flower to the right guy Wink

Tough girls arnt scary or anything (I like them actually Shocked

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They do put there men inline though, Some guys might need a women to take control, they cant think for themself Laughing

Mind you in all seriousness having no limits might be fun. I could see myself going to work down there with no pay just to be able to hunt with a free room and board. Cool

Dimitri

1895ss · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Camel pests in Australia

Vince wrote:

When you are hunting big wild scrub bulls, buffalo or big outback pigs you need something with a bit of punch, and yes 1895ss, the 45.70 does get a good showing.

Thanks Vince, I wondered about that and was going to ask. We don't have any pest around here that size but I do use my 45-70 for Elk hunting and deer from time to time. It sure puts them down with authority. Laughing

Dimitri, there are some girls out here like that. I wouldn't want anything to do with them ............. Shocked

ogre · Member Joined: Jan 15, 2006 Posts: 79 Location: Melbourne

260,000 - not even close add another zero and then some.

The local equivilent of the NRA the SSAA recomends the 6.5x55 as the minimum calibre for camels.
That's a recomendation only NOT law. Most of the blokes that I know use 270's , 308's 30/06 and one bloke uses a 340 WM.

Have you guys seen what a car looks like after hitting a large Elk??
Camels have legs about 2-4 feet longer than an Elk and when you cut the legs out from under them at 140 KLms (85+ MPH) ; and hour the 700+ kilogram ( 1500+ LBS) lands about right on your cab to winscreen roof line.
If you are unlucky to hit a mature bull 1000 kilo+ in a normal sedan you at anything much over 40 K's (25 MPH) you usually don't survive.

My mate hit medium (approx 600kgs- took 4 of them to lift it out of the tray after it crushed/rolled over the cab) one with a Large SUV (Landcrusier 80 custom ute) and the SUV was written off. That was at a little over 60 K's (40MPH) just after leaving town.

Northern Territory has de-resticted hwy speeds after you clear town.
Most 18 wheelers or bigger sit on 100 MPH fully loaded.
and bull camels have written the prime mover off when they hit one.

Doesn't happen all that often- but when it does the humans come off second best.

The railways are investigating an automatic washing system to get the bits off the trains when they hit camels as the travel accross/ up down the desert. The rails condense moisture over night and the camels come in to lick the rails. When a train comes along the dumber camels try running along the tracks to get away from a train doing 90+ MPH- messy , very messy. and 100 times more common than a car hitting a camel.

I have never hunted them but I have a want to.
The are know by some as Australias biggest Varmint.

HTH

later
P

SeniorCoot · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Camel pests in Australia

Aussie women always remind me of those in Alaska- We had a celebration for sourdough women -had to do a few outside things and camping know how- real fun then we'd auction off bachelors- man they paid BIG $$--iN AK odds for women are good BUT the Goods are ODD!
last trip Down under my wife wanted a Camel Ride so we booked in on one- kind of fun but I'll take horses for my steed. had the whole deal- Tea ceremony Aussie style etc.

ogre · Member Joined: Jan 15, 2006 Posts: 79 Location: Melbourne

SeniorCoot wrote:

Tea ceremony Aussie style etc.

WTF????
that's just beer in a glass instead of st8 out of the can.

later
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Dimitri · Super Member Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 5946

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Dimitri. Shiela is an "affectionate" term (definitely not derogatory) used to describe an Aussie woman. It is a term that has been around for a lot of years. As for them being tough....well have you ever seen a woman kick start a 747? But seriosly, aussie women in the outback need to be tough because it is not uncommon to see them working alongside the men and every bit as hard. My eldest daughter worked as a Jillaroo (like a cowboy) on a 100 square mile cattle station (and that's a small one) for 12 months and I didn't recognise her when she came home.

Neat Vince. How did she enjoy it ?? Smile

And I feel stupid Embarassed

But I know better now Very Happy

I wonder how badly your daughter could beat me at arm wresling I'm pretty weak in my upper body. Very Happy

Anyways Camel hunting would be interesting. I mean how many people can honestly say they hunted Camel ?? Cool

Dimitri

Bruiser · Rookie Member Joined: Oct 09, 2009 Posts: 1

Hmmmm. Just yesterday came back from a cattle muster far north east of Kalgoorlie West Aust. I have a few thoughts to put out there.
Yes there are a heap of camels roaming about out there in the big shop. On the station I was on I estimate around 250 and the same on the next property maybe more.
Good meat and they need to be culled. Meat is better than beef.

Another drama out there is the Dingo's. All of these stations were running sheep by the tens of thousands, but now that the government has ceased the Doggers subsidy and all of the stations run by aboriginals dont bait or trap dogs, they have built up dramatically and are moving south and west at a rate of knots. Killed all of the sheep and all of the nanny goats and most small billys on most stations out near wiluna and east. My cousin lost 2,500 sheep in one season to bloody dogs, and now all of these poor bloody station owners have had to upgrade fences and yards to handle Cattle.
Would be a good idea if some of you yanks get over here and take on some of these problems for a bit of sport. Jesus, we have hoards of buffalo up in East Arnhem Land, Camels, Brumbies, Donkeys, Dingos galore, Pigs, Feral Cats and wild domestic dogs all running amuck out there in the red middle bit.
I reckon if you threw the station say $100 each a week for your tucker and a bed, they would probably lend you a 4WD and help you get going with your shooting. Might need to pay for your own rounds though, they are doing it tough out there thanks to a slack government.
Bruiser

gelandangan · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Camel pests in Australia

Gday Bruiser
Glad to hear from another Aussie here.
Grab a beer mate, hope you like them 4xes.. thats all Vince got on his ever full esky.

Fairdinkum mate? about them dingoes killin thousand of sheep??
Maybe I ought to visit Kalgoorlie too..

Vince · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Camel pests in Australia

Gidday Bruiser...another West Aussie...great to have you aboard mate. As Gelan said, grab a beer and pull up a stump.

Bloody dingos...biggest problem I can see with them is they have crossed with domestic dogs, which makes them much more dangerous. I would love to get over there and get amongst them, but it is cost prohibitive.

Cheers Vince.

SwampFox · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Camel pests in Australia

In reading this thread, sounds like you have the same or a worse problem than we have here, with a government run by a bunch that I swear sometimes, must have escaped from the nut house.

Example: The hunters in the state asked that the deer season be opened to all sex deer for the entire season Nov to Feb in order to reduce the doe population. Deer here are like locust, they eat everything and the does travel in large heards. The state answered the request by changing the antlerless season from 7 days to 4 days! Just nuts.

A group of our land owners got together to form a preserve, 650 acres, in order to draw doe permits to reduce the herds on our property. State's response, they issued 4 permits for 650 acres. I have heards on my place, just 41 acres, of 12 to 20 does.

Wild hogs are a joke, they have two litters per season and every other year have three litters. Most times they have 6 or so piglets per litter per sow. The state still has a season and limit on state lands and they are ham deep in wild hogs.

The SE cayote is bigger than the western cayote, as it appears to have more to eat. We are having cayotes spread across the SE like the plague. The government's response, re-introduce the red wolf. Apparently the cayotes must have been leaving to many small game critters and birds alive. So before long we will have wild hogs, doe deer and cayotes running around on barren landscape.

There is no conservation or managment, only ignoring the problem and not killing anything, just foaming at the mouth tree huggers from 1st Ave, in Big City, running the animal conservation programs by doing nothing. Don't feel alone, stupidity is rampant everywhere.
Best,
Ed

Makwa · Rookie Member Joined: Oct 08, 2009 Posts: 23

Bruiser..............I am new on here and from Canada. My wife and I have been wanting to visit your beautiful country for many years and of course we want to do some shooting. I thought helping with some feral animal control would be a blast but all of the outfitters want a lot more than I can afford.

We are semi-retiring from the outfitting/guiding business here in Canada and we have raised cattle and horses our whole lives, run farm machinery....so we even thought about going on the combine crews for a hoot one winter. Very Happy

Anyways, I enjoy the posts from you guys from Down Under.

Wicky · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Camel pests in Australia

An update for those that may be interested. By now most of you would know we are having a multi-million dollar government sponsored camel cull starting in 2010.
The target is 600,000 roughly culled.
We had the 'rangers' - and I use the term loosely - out at the range for their qualification course with firearms - not one passed!
I shoot a fair few for a couple of stations around the area and they are a pain but they are not the problem they are made out to be.
We looked into getting accredited to shoot from a chopper - $3000 for chopper accreditation then you supply your own firearm, the talk was for M14's but I don't not what the final fire arm was. $6000+ was a bit rich for me.
Old mate and myself have cleared one property in just the last week - 500 - and had done a pretty good job on another but now we will have the cowboys out there with plenty of wounded camels wandering around.
It's OK if the Government does it but!

germanhunter · Rookie Member Joined: Feb 23, 2012 Posts: 2

Hi there,

sorry for picking up such an old threat. I am searching for infos about the camel shooting. There is a 19million $ programm for culling camel. Is there any bounty paid on camels like for the fox and wild dog in Victoria?

Regards
Germanhunter

Vince · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:46 am Post subject: Re: Camel pests in Australia

Gidday mate. Bounty on camels...not that I am aware of...you certainly wouldn't be able to make any sort of a living out of culling them...unless you could find and outlet for the meat, and good luck with that one.

Cheers, Vince

germanhunter · Rookie Member Joined: Feb 23, 2012 Posts: 2

Thanks, Vince.

have fun there down under Very Happy

Cheers
Torsten