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#1: Pneumonia Author: tracker, Location: Manitoba, Canada

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:38 am
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I was in the hospital for a few days last week with a touch of pneumonia. I'm all better now, thanks for asking. I know Bushy & 1895 both just gasped there and said "Oh my God, no! Not Tracker!"

Anyway, while I was in there I was sharing a room with an older gentleman (seriously older, must have been close to Bushy's age) and he's not a hunter at all, but lives about a mile from me and said I was welcome to stop by his property which is apparently crawling at various times with deer or coyote and to go ahead and shoot whatever I want. I said I'd be sure to do that. Does it get any better than that?

Yes it does. My son has treaty rights and can hunt whenever he wants. He killed about the tastiest moose I've ever had so there was moosemeat soup and steak to help me on the road to recovery when I got out of the hospital (our local hospital's cure for pneumonia apparently is to starve the patient to death, that way they can say they were successful in that the pneumonia didn't kill 'em)

#2: Re: Pneumonia Author: SwampFox, Location: Destin, Florida

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:18 am
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Hey Tracker,
Good that you are on the mend and outta the place where everyone is sick.

Treaty rights, in the US that would mean that a person was part of a tribe, and can hunt tribal lands. Is that about the same thing in Canada?
Ed

#3: Re: Pneumonia Author: tracker, Location: Manitoba, Canada

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:48 am
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Thanks Ed, and yeah, it's pretty close from what Keetowah tells me about the U.S.

The govt of Canada has more rules and regulations on what makes an Indian an Indian than you can imagine. There's treaty Indians, status Indians and non-registered as well as Metis (part Indian) and Inuit. Up until a few years ago, if a non-treaty Indian woman married a treaty Indian, she got his treaty rights and all their kids had, if a treaty Indian woman married anyone non-treaty she and her kids lost their treaty rights. X and I waited for the law to change to protect our kids rights. Metis, non-registered and status non-treaty don't have hunting rights. The hunting rights are recognized as inherent, that is they supercede the treaties, so any Indian should have them, but only treaty Indians do. A lot of Metis organizations are fighting for the same recognition because as a group they were primarily hunters and trappers originally and many communities still are. I could jump on that bandwagon, being part Indian, but it's easier just to buy the damn licenses and hunt during the season, besides which, I don't care for a lot of those organizations. Everything's clear as mud now, right? Very Happy

#4: Re: Pneumonia Author: Bushmaster, Location: Ava, Missouri

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:59 am
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You were sick? No one told me...Oh well...Too late...Yer out...

My...He must have been old to be in a hospital...

#5: Re: Pneumonia Author: tracker, Location: Manitoba, Canada

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:05 am
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One difference I just noted in your post,Ed, treaty Indians can hunt anywhere here that hunting isn't restricted through some other legislation (town limits, private property, etcetera) We're supposed to get permission to hunt on tribal lands, although few do and most bands don't make a big deal out of it, not up where I'm from anyway.

Yeah, Bushy, I was a little under the weather, but you know us young guys just bounce right back Very Happy

#6: Re: Pneumonia Author: Bushmaster, Location: Ava, Missouri

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:28 am
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I don't believe I've been sick in around 5 years and that was a two day flu. Must be younger then you huh...

Tee's off the ol' lady...Haven't got time to be sick...Too much to do. Besides who would feed the horses...??

#7: Re: Pneumonia Author: tracker, Location: Manitoba, Canada

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:31 am
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My friend when you were a strapping teen lad wandering the mountains of the Pacific Northwest on some of your early hunting expeditions, I was just coming into the world, sorry haven't seen the half century mark yet.

#8: Re: Pneumonia Author: DallanC, Location: Utah

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:36 am
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Glad to hear you are getting better Tracker, yea it sucks to be sick but you found some postive things out of the ordeal. Sadly everyone in my house is sick but me... its no fun at all Sad

-DallanC

#9: Re: Pneumonia Author: tracker, Location: Manitoba, Canada

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:48 am
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Thanks Dallan, wish them all the best, looks like you've got your hands full.

#10: Re: Pneumonia Author: SwampFox, Location: Destin, Florida

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:46 pm
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Tracker,
That is pretty much what I thought. Sounds like the "folks" are better off settling things themselves and leaving the govt out of the process.

My 3 great grandmother claimed to be full blooded Cherokee indian at a time when claiming to be an indian was not a joking matter and not done by a woman at all. We of course have no papers, but that is the story she told the family. Said she was left on the door step of a cabin in TN, on "the trail of tears" and taken in by a family to raise as their own. Their nephew came to work on the farm and married her, had a passle of kids. Then she, by herself, with the kids, on a covered wagon, moved from TN to FL. She was said to be a tough old hickory bark of a woman.

Dallan, sorry to hear you are playing nurse.
Ed

#11: Re: Pneumonia Author: tracker, Location: Manitoba, Canada

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:59 pm
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Sounds like an awesome lady, Swampfox.

#12: Re: Pneumonia Author: keetoowah, Location: Deep in the mountains of Montana

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:01 pm
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Swampfox
she sounds like my cherokee grandmother. I have info if you want on how to find past relatives.

agageyudv Wohali

#13: Re: Pneumonia Author: SwampFox, Location: Destin, Florida

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:19 pm
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Her name, just one, was Armeneta. She was born about 1815. Her Daughter Martha Jane Quiet Hunter married my paternal 2 great Grandfather Gideon Jones, they had 18 children between them. Now that was a pastle of youngins.

Armeneta is a European name and was probably a "given name" by the family that took her in.

Thanks for the note but I have searched the records sites and there is very little that can be done with a single name, especially one that is not the actual given Indian name. I suspect that many Indian women finding themselves pregnant, at delivery, tried to give their newborn babies away, on the trail of tears.
Ed

#14: Re: Pneumonia Author: Dimitri,

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:57 pm
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Tracker,

Glad your feeling better. Smile

Dallan,

Hope they all get better soon. Smile

Dimitri

#15: Re: Pneumonia Author: tracker, Location: Manitoba, Canada

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:44 am
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Thanks Dimitri

Swampfox, you're right it was the only way for their babies to survive

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