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Savagenut Member
Joined: Apr 15, 2009 Posts: 48 Location: S.W. Michigan
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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Hi friends been a long time no post (working to much). Was going through some of the load data again to come up with some different loads for the .308. My suggestion is to include the case manufacturer, and case weight due to the fact that there are many new to reloading and will take the data found and load away.... Some of the loads in the .308 catagory were at 107% of case capacity for my cases (federal and Lake city) Remember that we are in charge of a controled explosion we don't want it to become uncontroled.
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SingleShotLover Super Member
Joined: Dec 26, 2007 Posts: 1005 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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Good point, and also reenforces the rule of always starting well below the maximum charge for any cartridge and working up.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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I've always found the brass case is one of the biggest contributor to accuracy. Change the case with everyother aspect being the same and your POI and group size will change significantly. Lessons learned don't mix cases.
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Savagenut Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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who said I mixed the cases
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:28 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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Savagenut, I should have written my post better. I agree, listing the brass component used in a load is important because ... I also found my .308 Federal cases didn't have as much capacity as other manufactures.
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Ominivision1 Super Member
Joined: Sep 20, 2010 Posts: 2984 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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SingleShotLover wrote: |
Good point, and also reenforces the rule of always starting well below the maximum charge for any cartridge and working up. |
Excellent point.
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Savagenut Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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No problem there Jim. My federals are on the heavy side 178 and 179 grains... the lake city is also heavy 179/180gr vs some of the winchester brass I got rid of at 155 gr.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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Savagenut wrote: |
My federals are on the heavy side 178 and 179 grains... .... vs some of the winchester brass I got rid of at 155 gr. |
A good example as to why brass is such a critical component. You could load these two manufactuers' cases identically and the group-size and POI results would be so different you would wonder if they were loaded on the same planet. Internal pressures would be significantly higher in the Federal (higher weight = less internal volume).
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inthedark Super Member
Joined: Jan 31, 2011 Posts: 913 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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Well Guys and Gals I am looking for some good load suggestions for a 300WSM. I am the designated chef for three of my buddies who all have purchased said calibre firearms within the last two months and They all want me to get them set up with some hunting loads. I am thinking of 165-200grain range for the types of game they will be hunting which is all of the ungulates in N America and also both great bears.
My Thanks in advance.
Chimo
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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inthedark
Check out the huntingnuts reloading db, if you did then you can check out Hodgdon Reloading
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Savagenut Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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For example... Huntingnut reload data base 308 Winchester.
168gr SMK 46gr 4064 2700fpsmv no COL given
Sierra reloading manual 308 Win.
168gr SMK 43.4gr 4064 2700fpsmv *note 26" barrel 2.800 COL (federal brass)
Savagenuts reload manual (ha ha)
168gr SMK 40.3gr 4064 (93%) 2721fpsmv 24" barrel 2.845 col (20 thou off lands) .420 five shot group 100 yrds
177.9gr case (Federal) 168.2 gr SMK 43.3gr total of 4064 possible 100% charge
46gr as listed 1.7gr overload 100.06% (compressed load)
DANGER Will Robinson DANGER
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Savagenut Member
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Reloading Data Suggestion |
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Oh yeah, Sierra load DO NOT EXCEED 43.4 gr
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