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glockman55 Super Member


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Pumpkinslinger Super Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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Hmmm! Why can I see through the deer's back but nothing is blurred? Oh!! He's a GHOST!!
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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Actually I very much believe this picture is real. I've seen it posted around in a few places reciently. CCDs in trailcameras are cheap so they dont respond quickly to changes in brightness. Most of the deer where its transparent are areas where until the deer jumped up, had bright light. When the top of the deer covers it up, the CCD still "remembers" the brightness and goofs up the picture slightly making it appear ghosted.
Very similar to if you look at a bright light then at something dark, you still see part of the light on top of the dark object even though the light isnt there anymore.
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Bushmaster Super Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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Next time you shoot a deer check out its tail and see if it is in an erect position as this one is...Most of the ones I've shot are lying flat against the rear or in a down position when dead...Maybe not...
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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I don't no enough about photography to tell, but that's a good shot
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Bushmaster Super Member


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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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You mean the arrow...Yes Joe...Well placed...
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Bushmaster Super Member


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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I can see that we need to recruit a photo expert to this sight...
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gelandangan Super Member


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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I think this is a real photo, you can just see the shadow line below the deer.
The freeze frame should be caused by the flash.
Yes you can "see through" the deer, but nothing special to it, the actual shutter speed of the camera may be as low as 1/60 second where the flash is at 1/10000 second.
The deer is moving fast passing the camera, after the flash, the deer have moved out of the way and the camera still recoding the background.
Sort of if you take photo at night and leave your shutter open for a while to capture the background.
(I reckon I am a bit of photographic expert, I ought to be, I run a camera shop for my side job  )
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Elvis Super Member


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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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nice shot placement and a great photo sure looks like the death dive to me. heart shot hares bounce round strangely just before keeling over it looks real to me.
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PaulS Super Member


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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:46 am Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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I am suspicious of it because there is no blurring of the deer. If it was moving and the exposure were long enough to see the background through the deer, the deer should be blurred. The shadow of the arrow and of the ears appears to be toward the right in the picture, not in line with the flash from the camera. Lastly the deer is dead,its tongue is hanging out the deer's mouth, eyes are glazed (they should be brighter if it is alive), and there is shadow other places that look out of place.
The photo is not of high enough clarity to zoom much but I can copy it and look at the histogram to tell for sure if it is photo-shopped.
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PaulS Super Member


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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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Ok, I looked at the histogramm and it is modified. That doesn't necessarily mean the image was added but the histogram shows some kind of mod. I then zoomed in to do a pixel count....
The pixel density on the dear is 4 times that of the pixels of the background. The deer was added to the picture after the picture was blown up to fit the deer.
It is a poor job of photoshopping.
I do agree that the arrow shot was a great one. It is too bad that someone felt the need to make it appear to be more than it was.
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Bushmaster Super Member


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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Deer In Flight? |
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And we now have the report from our photo expert...Knew you'd be along...
Hi Paul. How you been?
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