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twofifty Member
Joined: Feb 07, 2007 Posts: 158 Location: BC Rockies
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: goofed 80 cases |
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I goofed up 80 cases by decapping and priming them before FL sizing, so of course, the necks will not hold a bullet.
I can probably still run these primed cases through the FL die without setting them off, remembering to first remove the decap pin.
If not, then run them into a Lee collet die?
Either way, I can't really see the cartridge's primer area being disturbed by either procedure.
Are there better ways to recover these 80 cases without wasting the primers?
Note to self: make and use a reloading checklist for each batch of brass.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5037 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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I can't see why you couldn't run them through the sizing die w/o decapping pin like you said. Be careful about the sizing lube though, so you won't contaminate the primers. Maybe use a dry lube like Hornady One Shot and then wipe it off good because you can't tumble the cases clean.
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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Just like Pumpkinslinger says except you can tumble them in a vibrator tumbler. You should inspect the primer flash holes from the inside though I doubt that it would make any difference if there is a bit of media stuck in the flash hole. I have read tests dealing with media plugged flash holes and it was not a problem according to the tests...
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sagebrushsniper Member
Joined: Feb 22, 2008 Posts: 31 Location: central wyoming
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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What is wrong with wasteing 80 primers by starting over and not to risk of having a miss fire on a nice animal or in a tight situation. Over the 30 years of reloading I've done many dumb things and always figured out a way to rectofiy the problem. You're talking probably just over a couple of bucks shot compared to some two or four legged griz making you lunch! Remember your glasses and go for if! Try forgeting the primers and loading a fine grain ball powder!
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Bushmaster Super Member
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DallanC Site Admin
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3585 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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I charged an entire block of cases once before I realized I had forgotten the primers. oops!
-DallanC
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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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done whole case of ammo before realizing that the charging handle on my Dillon SQD progressive is not moving as it should.
Got 100 finished cases without powder..
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Morax Super Member
Joined: Dec 18, 2006 Posts: 618 Location: Pittsburgh Pa
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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this is why i like my single stager.. i can look into every case as i go and i aint gonna lie i have dumped a few out cause they didnt look right and reset everything and re did them..
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ElyBoy Super Member
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 1541 Location: Forest Lake Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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I think that I would start over and do what the gang says.
Lose the $2.50 worth of primers and start from scratch.
If you don't, every time that you pull the trigger, you will wonder if it will go off.
Good luck,
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twofifty Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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Thanks guys.
I see from your stories that there's no end to the entertainment when it comes to reloading. ;-)
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woods Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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Hey 250
You can use your Lee Collet Neck Sizer with the mandrel removed. I have done it.
Measure the outside diameter of the neck before sizing.
Take the mandrel out, put the case in the shell holder and raise the ram
Thread the Lee Collet in until you feel resistance, mark the die with a magic marker
Now start threading the die in a little at a time until the neck gets sized to the dimension you want. It usually takes only 1/2 turn till the bullet won't go into the case neck anymore
Works like a charm.
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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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I think that I have done every single one of these goofs to one extent or another ....with the powder trickling out the empty primer pocket being the most annoying without a doubt.
Seeing as how I have a good percentage of Scottish in me I'd be still using those primers, but they are pretty expensive down here in aussie. I'd definitely try the Lee Collet die.....or if you have a Lee Factory Crimp Die I'd just carry on reloading. Once you have crimped the bullet then I can't see that there would be a major problem....although your group size may open up a little.
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ElyBoy Super Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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I wrote the book on "DUMB" twofifty, so don't feel too bad about one mess up.
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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: goofed 80 cases |
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_________________ Cheers, Vince
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