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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:00 am Post subject: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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Something to warm the hearts of our resident "old" sailors.
Battle Wagon Barrage
Enjoy.
Cheers, Vince
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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Now you gotta love that!
When Desert Storm was in the works some reporter was asking a US Navy officer about using the old battleships in modern combat. The reporter asked something to the effect of "What would happen to one of these old ships if it got hit by an Exocet missle?" The officer answered "Well, it would probably scorch the paint..."
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popgun Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 735 Location: Mitchell, GA, U.S.A. (2007 pop. 191)
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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All of the Big Guns were in the Navy. Now they sit idle on Museum Ships.
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A17Shooter Super Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2005 Posts: 322 Location: California Foothills (Gold Country)
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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I believe that the Iowa is still in the reserve fleet at Benicia, CA.
Just waiting for one more chance.
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11389 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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All of the Battle Wagons have been mothballed at this time...Unfortunatly...Now days with the new technology in weapons all the battle ships would be is good P R and have a phsycological effect on the enemy. Which, I believe, would be worth it to keep one on the west coast and east coast active and underway...But who am I to say??
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A17Shooter Super Member
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11389 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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Oh no doubt that they can...definately give you a #36 Accedrin head ache...
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keetoowah Super Member
Joined: Mar 20, 2007 Posts: 691 Location: Deep in the mountains of Montana
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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my god how does that not rock the boat more than that??
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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It displaces 45,000 tons when empty and can carry a additional 12,000 tons worth of personal, equipment and supplies.
Its a 2,700 pound AP shell being fired at about 2700 feet per second, so that means that when all 9 barrels are firing there is a velocity of 0.99 feet per second on the battle ship, with 1378018.79 foot pounds of energy being applied.
Now consider a 9 pound rifle shooting a 150gr bullet out of a 300 Weatherby Mag has a recoil velocity of 14.3 feet per second.
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keetoowah Super Member
Joined: Mar 20, 2007 Posts: 691 Location: Deep in the mountains of Montana
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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what keeps it from flipping over with that much power exploding on one side of the ship?
how long is that keel?
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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Its sheer weight Keetoowah,
With displacements of 45,000 tons empty and 57,000 tons fully loaded, its not going to move much under recoil because it absorbs the majority of the energy thats why it only wants to move at a foot a second when its firing all 9 guns.
However let it be known generally they fired them in stages, 3 guns (one per turret) then the other 3 then the other 3 so they can do sustained fire on a target. So the recoil is cut by a 2/3rds when shelling a target for any length of time each time as its shooting.
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A17Shooter Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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The projectiles are only 2700 lbs and the MV is just 2600 fps. It was rumored that a nine gun salvo, off the beam, would move the ship 50 ft sideways. that may be a sea story but, it is what I heard from crew members of the New Jersey.
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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A17Shooter wrote: |
The projectiles are only 2700 lbs and the MV is just 2600 fps. |
You make it sound like the projectiles its shooting are small.
Dimitri
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A17Shooter Super Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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keetoowah wrote: |
what keeps it from flipping over with that much power exploding on one side of the ship?
how long is that keel? |
The keel would be about 860 ft. Total length about 890 ft. Across the beam she was 108 ft.
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DallanC Site Admin
Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3571 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: For our Squids/Swabbies/Pussers |
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Those ships might be mothballed, but that doesn't mean they cant return to duty quickly. Back in the early 80's I got to tour the Missouri when it was stationed in Seattle. Then during Desert Storm they quickly brought it up to battle ready status and was there in the gulf war. I don't doubt if there was a need they could do it again.
Look at this muzzleblast on the water:
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