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DallanC Site Admin


Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3536 Location: Utah
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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Catching a 36" long Pike sounds fun right??? What about when a 54", 44lb pike decides to eat your 36" pike???
Man those things are huge and mean!!!
-DallanC
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moose2 Super Member


Joined: Mar 19, 2005 Posts: 707 Location: North Idaho
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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These are some great pics. Pike, one of my favorite to catch. Get quite a few of them around here in the 40" plus size. 54" is truly a giant.--tr
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Morax Super Member


Joined: Dec 18, 2006 Posts: 618 Location: Pittsburgh Pa
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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one word WOW!!!
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Dimitri Super Member


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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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Northern Pike, one of the few fish (as far as I know) that pratice canbalism.
Dimitri
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Bushmaster Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11317 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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Never fished for Salmon have you Dimitri...Most fish will eat any other fish that's smaller then it no matter whether it's his son or cousin...
I've had a seven to eight pound salmon on when a 15 to 20 pound salmon bit the seven pound salmon's tail (and about 2 pounds) right off before I could get it in the boat...
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Dimitri Super Member


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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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I've fished for salmon, they do eat each others eggs I know not the same as Pike though, still never seen a salmon go after a live salmon.
Last fall (last September) while salmon fishing:
Dimitri
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Morax Super Member


Joined: Dec 18, 2006 Posts: 618 Location: Pittsburgh Pa
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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they dont go after the "fries"??
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Dimitri Super Member


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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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Morax,
Salmon die after they go up the river and spaw so I'd imagine Salmon don't go after their own fry. However pike do.
Dimitri
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Morax Super Member


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Dimitri Super Member


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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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Nope males too, once the salmon stay too long in the river they liturally start to die off, if you go later in the season in the rivers you'll start to find fish that have already did there bussince and from a nice color like the one I'm holding in the picture they start to become a pail white color as they die and have no energy left in them.
How do I know this you might ask, the pail white salmons have no fight when you get them on your line, you can just simply real them in, and I'm the one that "field dresses" the salmon (I normally clean the inners and remove the head to be cut into steaks at home) and the egg and sperm of the pail white ones are empty most of the time (I guess sometimes they don't find a mate fast enough).
I got to admit though I tend to not go after the ones that have been in the river for a longer time for many reasons, the main one is the meat isn't for consumption at that point in my opinion when it looks white not pink anymore.
Dimitri
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Morax Super Member


Joined: Dec 18, 2006 Posts: 618 Location: Pittsburgh Pa
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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I got ya (understand what you are saying).. i was salmon fishing a loooong time ago and the female that i was around when it was caught was full of eggs, we went back to the car with her and emptied her out into a coffee tin, and then made some ummm, cant remember the term, sacks i guess you would call them, with like 10-15 eggs in a plastic strainer(almost like a nylon stocking), tied it off and put it on the hook.. so is this also why where they are prevalent you get the bears down there early season, when the fat/egg/sperm content of the fish are high?
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Dimitri Super Member


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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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Yes, best get them early season when they are still healthy
Also there is probably a technical term for the "nylon stocking & eggs" combo, but I just call them egg sacks. Its also called spawn which is another way of saying a bunch of eggs.
Dimitri
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Morax Super Member


Joined: Dec 18, 2006 Posts: 618 Location: Pittsburgh Pa
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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well when i was growing up, sans any real fishermen around me, my brother in law taught me, and of course it was all the "real" names, dude its a bunch of eggs, no it is a...... ummm ok... you know the type.. but i digress... seriously though never put much thought to it all but now with the new stuff i learned today it all makes sense!! and before ya ask i cant fly fish to save my life, the wife can out cast me any day!!
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Joined: Dec 27, 2005 Posts: 37 Location: Idaho Falls, Idaho
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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Demitri: We've always called them spawn sacks, or nylong mesh bags. Freedyf
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Bushmaster Super Member


Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11317 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: 36" long BAIT FISH??? |
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Salmon or fish eggs are called "roe" and you mix borax with the roe then put them in your wife's (girlfriend's) cast off nylons cut in squares and tied off around a trebble hook. The roe needs to be stored for a period of time before use.
PaulS...Did I get that right. It's been a while...The last King (Chinook) that I caught was in the American River in 1995 and was a 35 pounder...
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