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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

“Dhc4ever” wrote:
...lovestruck??? wtf Confused Either it’s a new rifle, shotgun, or lady friend. Which one mate?

Well the last time I talked to him he wasn't doing any shooting
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:17 am    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

Vince wrote:
I wasn’t really happy with the scope rings I had on the rifle, so I kept looking around for another set of rings. I found exactly what I was looking for today at one of my local gun shops...a set of Hawke brand 1” medium height rings for a Weaver mount. These rings are wider and have four screws securing the top section of the ring to the bottom section...very solid. Needless to say, I fitted them as soon as I got home.

The rifle now looks as neat as I hoped with nice clean lines and a solid mount.

Vince,

do you have a full size picture of the whole rifle?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

Deer Sniper wrote:
Vince wrote:
I wasn’t really happy with the scope rings I had on the rifle, so I kept looking around for another set of rings. I found exactly what I was looking for today at one of my local gun shops...a set of Hawke brand 1” medium height rings for a Weaver mount. These rings are wider and have four screws securing the top section of the ring to the bottom section...very solid. Needless to say, I fitted them as soon as I got home.

The rifle now looks as neat as I hoped with nice clean lines and a solid mount.

Vince,

do you have a full size picture of the whole rifle?

I thought I did, but can’t see it...I’ll get a pic later today after we get back from lunch...it’s Tricia’s 65th Birthday today so we are taking her to lunch.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

Tell her Happy Birthday from us!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:53 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

Will do mate...thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

That's a sharp looking rifle you've got there Vince! What kind of accuracy are you getting from it? Loads?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

Deer Sniper wrote:
That's a sharp looking rifle you've got there Vince! What kind of accuracy are you getting from it? Loads?

Being a WWII military rifle, accuracy is not really it’s strong point, with 2 MOA possible with good ammunition. Of course, this can be improved upon with handloads...something I’m trying to do now.

The Mark VII factory loading used a 174 gr (11.28 g) pointed bullet with a flat-base. The .303 British Mark VII cartridge was loaded with 37 gr (2.40 g) of Cordite MDT 5-2 (cordite MD pressed into tubes) and had a muzzle velocity of 2,440 ft/s (744 m/s) and a maximum range of approximately 3,000 yd (2,743 m). I am putting together handloads using a couple of different powders and weight of projectile to improve on this, and try to develop a good accurate hunting load, but this is proving difficult...so far.

The two powders I am using are AR2206H (H4895) and AR2208 (Varget) and projectiles are the Hornady 174gr FMJ, Hornady 174gr RN and Hornady 150gr SP, with only the FMJ producing acceptable accuracy. I am seeing pressure signs (hard extraction etc)from the AR2206H at less than max loadings but the AR2208 seems to be more “gentle” and pleasant to shoot, but I have to do a lot more load development with this powder to find its accuracy node. I am surprised that the two Hornady offerings are not shooting better, but as we well know, some rifles can be finicky with different projectiles.

I have a couple of cast options available...a 180gr Cast GC (180gr was the projectile weight of the original .303 round during WW 1) and a 207gr Cast (Powder coated) that is showing good accuracy from a Mk5 rifle. One guy I have spoken to is getting under 1 MOA with the 207gr. I will be trying the 180gr when I get my hands on a mould, hopefully this week. The 207gr may be available to buy...not sure though at this time.

Range time is making things a bit difficult because we have to book in for reduced shooting sessions because of COVID.

I think I will find 1 - 1.5 MOA acceptable for hunting loads, so that is my first aim, with better accuracy hopefully to come once I find a good combination of components.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

Vince,,, Have you thought about pulling the flash hider off to maybe just to polish the crown of the barrel,,, then reinstall the flash-hider. just a thought,,,, I used the larry porterfield (midway) with a screw and sandpaper,,,, it helped a little ,,,,, pete

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

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Vince,,, Have you thought about pulling the flash hider off to maybe just to polish the crown of the barrel,,, then reinstall the flash-hider. just a thought,,,, I used the larry porterfield (midway) with a screw and sandpaper,,,, it helped a little ,,,,, pete

Haven’t heard of that one mate...might just give it a try. I have some 0000 steel wool, some coarse scoured pad and my Drexel has felt polishing pads...might just have to give it a go. Thanks mate.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

there is trick guys do with .22lr uses a brass headed screw and polishing paste I believe...
a chap over here has a old old black powder rifle that crown was poked on..I suggested something radicle and it worked...he drilled oversived hole back up barrel..to give it a false muzzle and good clean crown back up the spout a little bit..50 mm ish it worked a treat,kept rifle externally origonal,sights stayed in same spot and it went from 6" back to 2" groups.
he is a very cleaver chap who has made rifles from scratch so had tooling and brain power to do it right.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

I can easily recut the crown...my shooting buddy has the cutters, but I want to leave things factory original, so I will try polishing the existing crown and inside of the flash hider. If there is a burr or similar on the crown, I’ll carefully remove it using a case chamfering tool. Nothing to lose and everything to gain.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

Vince,,, I used a machine screw with emery cloth mounted in a drill,,, polished a little , shot a few rounds and polished till I liked the group ,,, It did help....... pete

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

DON'T use a case chamfering tool matey, as you could easily damage the edges of the rifling.
A round headed brass screw & fine valve grinding paste is the way to go if you wish to remove minimal amounts of metal.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

English Mike wrote:
DON'T use a case chamfering tool matey, as you could easily damage the edges of the rifling.
A round headed brass screw & fine valve grinding paste is the way to go if you wish to remove minimal amounts of metal.

Thanks mate...that works for me and I have both items readily available. The ideal option is a lathe, but would necessitate completely stripping the rifle down and removing the barrel...ain’t gonna happen.

Now, if I can just find a bayonet for the Mk5, within my meagre price range, to complete the set. Biggest problem is they are scarce (don’t know why, there were hundreds of thousands made). There are a lot of reproductions on the market, at “original genuine” prices and they are pretty scrappy in appearance...probably made in Pakistan or India.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: New Rifle Reply with quote

I’ve been using my time to make a leather butt stock Piece with a high density foam cheek piece and some bullet loops for spent cartridges. I made a leather mold to make up a small pouch to attach to the left hand side, but it turned out a tad big, so I went with the loops...for now.

It actually came out better than I thought it would, and I think it compliments the look of the rifle. I am not real fussed about the slip on recoil pad, but because I want to keep it original, I don’t have much choice.



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