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PaulS Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:01 pm Post subject: specialty rifle |
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I am thinking about getting involved in rimfire steel challenge competition.
I need an inexpensive rifle that will shoot well out of the box with virtually any brand of 22 LR ammo. the ranges are 25 yards +/- a few and the events are timed, shooting at 6 inch steel plates. Optical sights are a disadvantage and semi-autos are a definite advantage.
Has anyone got recommendations?
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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IMO 6 inch plates at 25 yards would fits Ruger 10/22 very well.
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Aloysius Super Member


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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:48 am Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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Paul, forget everything and go and try the FN/Browning Auto-22, it will beat any Ruger out of the box and you wil love it. Somewhat more expensive is the BAR-22, but then you also have a rifle that will get all the eyes in the neightborhood.
When you cannot find the FN/Browning Auto-22, there might also be a Miroku with the same outfit...
it's all vintage and not bling-bling, but you will never regret when you give them a chance.
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PaulS Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:24 am Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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Maybe I should have put the "inexpensive" in bold. Over $1000 for a rifle is about three times the budget for a rifle that will only be used in this single competition. The FN/Browning is way too expensive. The CZ is more than what I would feel comfortable spending for this game but it isn't absurd.
As much as I like Ruger, I have seen a lot of failure to feed and stove-pipe from the 10-22 in this competition (as informal as it is). What ever rifle I end up with will have open iron sights because I will be shooting instinctively and once I train on the rifle I will most likely not even use the sights. Bling and add-on accessories are not on the list of things to buy. The gun needs to be light weight, heavy on the barrel for follow through but window dressings would be a disadvantage.
In the competitions that I have watched the AR22 has been the fastest over the targets but the gun is just out of my price range. I am hoping to find something under $200.
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Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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I have owned a couple of semi. 22s. My current is a Savage 64. It shoots okay but I get the occasional misfeed when using lower velocity ammo. You may wish to look at what Gunbroker may have to offer. Another option is a pump action which is slower but less prone to misfeeds or that is my experience. Getting something new that is decent under $200 may be a challenge.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:27 am Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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ok norinco copy of the take down Browning then...cheap ,fast and reliable.
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Aloysius Super Member


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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:33 am Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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Expensive? Due to our license system these Auto-22's go here for 50-100 euro and even at that price lot of them are not sold but just given away. It costs about 75 euro to get it officially destroyed... It would make you very sad if you should see the guns that are destroyed after the law changed in 2006
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 4:21 am Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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Paul, I bet the 10/22 failures were from not using the Ruger mags.
I have a 10/22, circa 1979, and the only failures I have had with that rifle are from dirt cheap ammo or non Ruger mags.
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 4:36 am Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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RePete wrote: |
Paul, I bet the 10/22 failures were from not using the Ruger mags.
I have a 10/22, circa 1979, and the only failures I have had with that rifle are from dirt cheap ammo or non Ruger mags. |
Or else magazines allowed to get very dirty! RePete is right. I have never had feeding problems with Ruger magazines but plenty with other "after market" brands, especially those ridiculous "banana" mags. A 10/22 cqn be easily slicked up to perform fast and reliably under pretty much any conditions. I would guess that many of the issues you see could also be traced to the addition of buffers or less than high-velocity ammo. There is a whole industry that exists around specialty items for the 10/22...but not all are of any benefit other than lightening your wallet. Basic "slicking" up of the action, keeping it clean and feeding it decent ammo and you are ready to go.
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PaulS Super Member


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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:43 am Post subject: Re: specialty rifle |
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They were all Ruger 10 round mags - some were old so dirt could have been a problem. with the black mags it is impossible to see inside without pulling them apart.
I will look for the Norinco to see what I can find. I have seen a couple Marlin model 795 that I am looking at too. They have a good reputation other than factory trigger pulls but that can be fixed.
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