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torasperry Member


Joined: Sep 08, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Medina, Tennessee
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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Guys,
With all the smarts available here, What is the best method to Season a new 50cal?
Just got my T/C Omega inline stainless with thumbhole stock, Had a Nikon BDL scope mounted on it.
I have just heard so many break in methods, Is there any accepted way that this Braintrust can agree on?
Any information would be sincerely appreciated.... 
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vint2 Super Member


Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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DallanC Site Admin


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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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Welcome to the site!
After 25 years of shooting frontstuffers I personally dont believe in the "seasoning" as people generally refer to it. I like vint, give a good scrubbing using patches soaked with windex and drying. After that I run a patch with a very slight coating of Thompson's Borebutter.
With the exception of a quick reloaded followup-shot, I always swab my barrel between shots with a patch damp with windex. I've found the best accuracy that way.
-DallanC
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member


Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 4990 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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Torasperry, when I shot black powder and lead I just cleaned it good using hydrogen pyroxide followed by water and gave the bore a light coat of T/C Bore Butter, as Dallan said. With sabots or PowerBelts I've been using Hodgdon 777, keeping a clean bore with just water and patches and shoot with a dry bore. When I get ready to store the gun I use the Bore Butter again to protect it.
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vint2 Super Member


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Vince Site Admin


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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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I've heard of Windex being used for a lot of things, but never to clean a rifle barrel.  What is it about this product that makes it so useful?
Cheers, Vince
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DallanC Site Admin


Joined: Jan 18, 2005 Posts: 3559 Location: Utah
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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Vince wrote: |
I've heard of Windex being used for a lot of things, but never to clean a rifle barrel. :lol: What is it about this product that makes it so useful?
Cheers, Vince |
A) It disolves black powder fouling and oils really fast making for speedy and cleaner cleaning.
B) it evaporates extremely fast, faster than water. This results in less chance of a fouled shot due to moisture immediately after cleaning (think being at the range, shooting & cleaning alot), and less chance of rust internally.
C) Doesnt stink, your wife will let you clean your guns on the kitchen table without pitching a fit LOL!
I learned this trick 10 years ago and love it. I carry a tiny travel size shampoo bottle filled with windex in my possibles bag when I hunt. I also keep 10 or so patches slightly damp with windex in a ziplock in my bag as well for fast in the field swabs.
-DallanC
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hunterjoe21 Super Member


Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Posts: 1486 Location: Miles City, Montana
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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DallanC
I've always used one of the commercially available bore cleaners, and had a misfire once 'cause I didn't get it all outta the bore before I reloaded.
My question is:
Is it "Windex" specifically, or will any of the window cleaners work?
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PaulS Super Member


Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 4330 Location: South-Eastern Washington - the State
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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We use "Ed's Red" to clean and lube/protect the bore of our muzzle loaders. It seems to work very well and doesn't have ammonia init like Windex.
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torasperry Member


Joined: Sep 08, 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Medina, Tennessee
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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THANKS GENTS,
I will clean the new 50cal with Clenzoil, Just got some and will let you know about it after the cleaning and shooting.
Have to do some sighting work, but this T/C shure looks awesome, Hope it shoots that way too!
Have heard nothing but good reports about Omega and BDC as a combo,
will try it out and report back.
Thanks Again and This is a great place to get information from your peers.
Good Hunting
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vint2 Super Member


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Dimitri Super Member


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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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hunterjoe21 wrote: |
Is it "Windex" specifically, or will any of the window cleaners work? |
As long as it actually has ammonia any will do.
Dimitri
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Joe Boleo Super Member


Joined: Dec 25, 2006 Posts: 427 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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I agree that we can season frying pans, but probably should not season the bores of muzzleloaders. Windex and other concoctions work because they are water-based. The U.S. Army Field Manual specified how to properly clean and protect muzzleloaders for over a century. The specified method was to use hot soapy water to swab the bore, followed by hot water, then dry patches and finally oil patches. Been using that method for decades and it works, costs next to nothing and protects the bore. Take care...
Joe
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Crackshot Super Member


Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Mich
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Seasoning a New Muzzleloader barrel |
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Seasoning only happens when you DONT use Petrolium products to clean a BP rifle after shooting. And only then when shooting Black powder. Use the 1000+ Bore butter or shortening.
YES seasoning the bore helps them. My old TC Penn. Hunter can shoot 100 shots befor i need to swab crap out because the bore has been conditioned and never see's petrolium based cleaning agents in the bore.
The best way to season a BP ML is to shoot the crap out of it and swab every shot with spit patch then one saturated with 1000+ bore butter, keep doing this and eventually your bore will be seasoned.
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