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jamesbe2759 Rookie Member
Joined: Jan 22, 2010 Posts: 3 Location: Northern Utah
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:15 pm Post subject: How good is the .17? |
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I'm thinking of buying a .17 cal and was wondering if it is really that much better for preds than my 10-22. I'd welcome your opinions/advice.
Thanks
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:41 am Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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There are several .17 caliber cartridges out there. You need to be a little more specific on which and which predators you want to hunt.
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tcknight Super Member
Joined: Oct 09, 2009 Posts: 327 Location: Arkansas
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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I'm assuming you are talking rimfire since you currently use a 10/22. I'm not well versed in that, but I shoot a .17 center fire and wouldn't shoot anything else. I absolutely love that gun.
I can talk to ya about .17 center fires as can Chambered221, but can't help you much with rimfires. Sure someone else here can though.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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The .17 is more expensive than the 22LR which keeps me content with my 22s. I have a hard time paying the same for a box of .17 as 9mm.
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bracer Member
Joined: Dec 24, 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Prairie Dog Country
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 11:55 am Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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I use 17 HM2, 17 HMR rimfire and 17 Fireball and 17 Remington centerfire rifles for prairie dog shooting. I like the low muzzle blast and recoil of the 17s. I dont use them when its very windy but I live in prairie dog country so I go out when its nice weather. I used the Point Blank program to determain a one inch point blank range for each rifle for shooting the little prairie dog pups. I have used the 22 LR, 22 WMR, 22 Hornet,221 Fireball, 222 Rem, 223 Rem, 22-250 Rem, 220 Swift,and 243 Win. rifles for prairie dog shooting ,but the 17s are what I take out for spring shooting.
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chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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bracer wrote: |
I use 17 HM2, 17 HMR rimfire and 17 Fireball and 17 Remington centerfire rifles for prairie dog shooting. I used the Point Blank program to determain a one inch point blank range for each rifle |
bracer, what are the point blank ranges for each of these rounds?
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Grumulkin Super Member
Joined: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 365 Location: Central Ohio
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:08 am Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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jamesbe2759 wrote: |
I'm thinking of buying a .17 cal and was wondering if it is really that much better for preds than my 10-22. I'd welcome your opinions/advice.
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I think you'll find the accuracy of a 17 HMR significantly better than a 22 LR or 22 WMR and a 17 HMR will kill just as well.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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Grumulkin wrote: |
the accuracy of a 17 HMR significantly better than a 22 LR |
what is your rifle and what accuracy are you achieving? 10-shot groups at 50 yards?
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bracer Member
Joined: Dec 24, 2009 Posts: 46 Location: Prairie Dog Country
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:10 am Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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Slim Jim: One inch point blank range (PBR), that is a bullet path not over 1/2 inch high to the point where the bullet is 1/2 inch low./// 17hm2 17 Gr v-max bullet- Zero 92 Yds, PBR 115 Yds -0.5 in, 150 Yds -4.32in /// 17HMR 17 Gr v-max bullet-Zero 111 Yds, PBR 125 Yds -0.5 in, 175 Yds -3.88 in /// 17 Fireball 25 Gr HP Hornady bullet-Zero 172 Yds, PBR 195 Yds -0.5 in , 275 Yds -4.19 in /// 17 Remington 25 Gr HP Hornady bullet -Zero 174 Yds, PBR 197 Yds 275 Yds -3.97 in. There is very little difference in bullet ft/sec between the 17 Fireball and Remington because I use the velocity of my most accurate load for the 17 center fire rifles. A prairie dog pup is about a 3X6 inch target . The largest old P dog I have shot was about 4X13 inches.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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Where'd James go??
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tcknight Super Member
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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bracer, those are some pretty flat trajectories. 22LR aren't even in the ballpark. I've noticed some pretty accurate groups for the .17 rimfires in magazine articles so I was wondering if they were just better rifles to begin with. Ruger listed their .17 bolt action for $777 - wow!!! I thought I was onto something then saw they wanted the same price for their .22LR bolt action. That's more than I paid for my Tikka .270! Marlin was a bit more reasonable with .17 around $400 and 22LR bolt guns for around $200. I don't think I'd get a .17 to replace a 22LR but to have a different "tool" in the cabinet.
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rb41rb Rookie Member
Joined: Aug 08, 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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Hello All,
I've been on for a while but this is my first post. I have 2 17 hmr's 1 that I can't shoot anymore (thanks Remington) and a Marlin bolt action, I use then for coyote & bobcat hunting at close range (100 yards or less) both are very accurate and work well on small game and very fur friendly.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:13 am Post subject: Re: How good is the .17? |
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rb41rb wrote: |
both are very accurate |
Can you post some pictures of your groups?
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