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Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal?
Discussion regarding the reloading of ammunition and tuning of loads for accuracy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Yes but Norma is alot less expensive. Laughing

As for Varget, Canada is having some shortages, but nothing near like what you down south are having from what I hear, so I'm hoping a Canadian supplier will have some in stock. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Send me about 80lbs...........I'll make some quick cash !!! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Yah sure, what next, want me to send down new rifles too both without permits? Laughing

I think the State Department would have a field day hanging us both if there was no paperwork. Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Don’t need any rifles...........But I’ll take some small rifle primers if your offering !!! Razz

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Tracking down the Varget.

Thinking so far of:

168gr Sierra Match King
43gr Varget (7% under listed Max)
Norma Case
Win LR Primer.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

D,
I would council against brass, brass as you have a brass scatterer. If you go with RP Nickel it will make finding brass a bit easier. I use nickel in my auto guns for that very reason. The sun's glint on nickel is a great help in the Easter egg hunt.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Since we are talking about reloading can anybody give me some advice on Ranier bullets???? See them adverised but have not used them. Any info will be appreciated.
Thanks,vint2! Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Why yes Mr. Vint2...I use them as practice bullets and load them to duplicate my Hornady self defence and hunting loads. Great for target practice and have the same profile as the Hornady XTP. Don't expect the HPs to open up though. Rainier specificly stated a few years ago that they punched the hollow point in their flat nose bullets because you and I wanted them (popular demand). As you know, they are a plated bullet and should be kinda treated like lead except you can drive them at anything up to 1200 fps. A friend of mine loads them to 1400 fps and says they still hold up. I use jacketed data when reloading them. They are quite accurate too. As the below target shows. I was using my 3" kimber .45 ACP. This was at 25 yards and yes, I was bench resting. The bullseye is 3 1/2" diameter.

Ooops...Just noticed the load data is on the target except for the bullet. I was using the 185 grain Rainier plated HP...



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

SwampFox wrote:
D,
I would council against brass, brass as you have a brass scatterer. If you go with RP Nickel it will make finding brass a bit easier. I use nickel in my auto guns for that very reason. The sun's glint on nickel is a great help in the Easter egg hunt.
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Sounds like a good idea. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Thanks,bushy, I will give them a try!! Could not get back sooner as I had some things to deal with.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Dimitri wrote:
SwampFox wrote:
D,
I would council against brass, brass as you have a brass scatterer. If you go with RP Nickel it will make finding brass a bit easier. I use nickel in my auto guns for that very reason. The sun's glint on nickel is a great help in the Easter egg hunt.
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Sounds like a good idea. Smile

Dimitri

Another option 'Mitri is to fit a case collection bag to your rifle...covers the ejection port and the spent cases fall into it. I've seen guys cut the bottom out of the bag so the cases fall at their feet...doesn't upset the balance of the rifle that way.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

Good point Vince. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

HEY FOLKS HERE IS ONE TO GET REAL WORRIED ABOUT!!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

I have 100 Norma cases on order and 2 pounds of Varget coming to my door sooner then later. Very Happy

Once I develop the loads for the Envoy I'll load Remington Nickle cases for my M1A, which will allow me to instantly remember which reloads are for what (never mind the case head stamps being different). Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone here attempted successfully to duplicate Federal? Reply with quote

I think you will be pleased with the Varget D.

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