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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

No...It's not just you...And he's facin' to the right... Very Happy

Mr. Dallan. There is a little old lady just below me with 32 acres...Maybe in a few year it will be availible. Have a sad feeling she has willed it to her worthless brother-in-law though. He lives just down the road connecting to her property and keeps a trashy junk yard...Always wondered why he kept a bunch of coffee cans around his place...One day it was raining and I went to see about something...I found out. Roof does more then leak...He's sittin' in his easy chair watchin' TV with a coffee can on his belly catchin' the drops from the overhead...Nuthin' like livin' in the Ozarks... Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

It kinda looks like a shooter standing with a rifle or shotgun at the shoulder dosen't it?

Now Bushy, if'n it ain't rainin the roof don't leak.

We have had a few folks go from here bouts to Idaho, around the Sand Creek area. But me thinks they were more into slipping off to the 4th deminsion than retiring. "Up ahead there is a sign post" kinda stuff Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

In my opinion, unless you're sitting on oil land or there is some other form of outside influence (like big buck hunting property or vacation resort areas), land prices are pretty much governed by how far someone is willing to travel to work.

You darn sure can't make a living ranching on it anymore. Currently, ranching can't even pay the interest on a note. My grandpa once told me that if you pay more per acre for a ranch than the cost of a good cow you’ll never be able to pay for it ranching. This was in an area that takes about 5 to 10 acres to graze a cow. Currently, if you don’t inherit it or if you don’t have the extra cash (over and above agricultural or lease income), you don’t get to play the land game.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

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Is it just me or does anyone else see the outline of Elmer Fudd shooting a gun? Very Happy


-DallanC

Nope...ain't you Dallan....I can see it also. Hey, maybe its actually Swampy's way of layin' claim to his parcel of land.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

Look for tax leans. You can pay the back taxes and own the place outright. I am doing that to find a piece of land outside of Washington.... With all the foreclosures I figure people will get behind in their taxes before losing their property to the bankers.

Here is a couple of shots of the A-frame we put up. 3 solar electric panels, wood stove, Oil stove and propane instant hot water heater. In the loft is a bedroom and reloading room, downstairs is the living room, kitchen, and full bath. A laundry room has been added since these photos but it would be on the end away from the pics anyway. My brother added a front porch too.



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

Paul,

Nice place!

What is that white stuff laying everywhere. We don't have any of that down here.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

Cotton candy, Cary...Just make sure it isn't yellow when you eat it. That's a sign that it has spoiled... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

Bushy,

I'll remember that--Don't eat the yellow cotton candy.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

SwampFox,

Congrats! Sounds like a great setup you've got planned. Spent a few years in Pensacola (not w/ the mil.). My daughter lives there and the wife has cousins in Pace and near Jacksonville. I fact, a friend of ours from GA is planning to get married on the beach in Destin around beginning of July and was hoping we could make it.

Wish you all the best in getting in getting the work done. It's great to be able to hunt out the window while you have your morning cup of coffee!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

Bushmaster wrote:
Cotton candy, Cary...Just make sure it isn't yellow when you eat it. That's a sign that it has spoiled... Very Happy

I've heard that somewhere before Bushy...

Don't eat yellow snow NoNo don't eat the yellow stuff. Yuck

Hey Paul....somebody nicked the walls off'n ya house mate wtf Confused ....the roof reaches the ground. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

Well, the wife and I got the foundation for the tractor barn laid out, leveled, and the treated timber in place yesterday and I called for the building to be delivered/erected. The forestry guy called. He had another contract that the guy could not fund, so he starts our fence rows and the de-stumping of the range tomorrow with the dozer. De-stumping the range will give him the place to build piles and burn. He is still working the cleanup of the old pond and the digging of the new pond numbers.

I will call the fence erectors tomorrow. See if they want to tackle the three rail ribbon fence. Its a polymer 5.25 inch rail with three strands of high tinsel wire in each rail. You put up two stout end posts (6-8 round 10 ft) and stretch the fence between using ratchet spindles. The field or line posts just hold the fence in place and can be spaced 14 ft apart.

We are coming along nicely for two old folks with ailments.

Paul, did you install the solar panels yourself? I am thinking of a solar pump for a new well to keep the ponds full, seapage, evaporation, etc. I am not much with electricity so am a bit reluctant to just order the pump and 8 panels it will take to run it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

I too can sit on the back porch and hunt. I caught a pack of coyotes hanging around some new calves last week, stepped inside my back door, picked up my 25-06 and dropped one of them at about 350 yards. The rest of them were along the edge of the brush; they slipped behind some brush before I could get a second shot.

I've also got my computer hooked up wireless so I can sit out there and work. We don't have a very good infrastructure for telephones (miles and miles of gopher chewed on wires), so I have a satellite dish on my roof for the computer and my TV. My phones are all cell phones.

It took me 7 years to get my mail delivered to my front gate. I think they finally got tired of listening to me gripe and decided to bring it out here.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

Swampy wrote:
I will call the fence erectors tomorrow. See if they want to tackle the three rail ribbon fence. Its a polymer 5.25 inch rail with three strands of high tinsel wire in each rail. You put up two stout end posts (6-8 round 10 ft) and stretch the fence between using ratchet spindles. The field or line posts just hold the fence in place and can be spaced 14 ft apart.

Getting someone in to do the fencing is a smart move mate. I have done quite a bit of fencing with my now ex son-in-law and digging in the stainer posts is a real pain in the butt and damn hard work. A bigger fencing company will usually use an auger on the back of a tractor to sink the fence holes, but the smaller idividual fencer more often than not has to dig them by hand. My s-i-l had a hand auger and a hole shovel ! Once the hole was down we would tamp in enough dirt to hold the post upright then finish it off with a mixture of crusher dust (very finely crushed granite) and cement powder...pour it in dry, add some water and mix it in the hole.
I was always totally knackered at the end of a day fencing with him.

I'm trying to visualise a "three rail ribbon fence"...don't really know what that is. The fences we used to erect were either three, four or five strand plain wire, strainer post every 75m or so and at each corner and star pickets every 6m. Sometimes wire mesh was added as well depending on the reason for the fence. I even designed a tool to make "twitching" the wire to the posts easier...better than using fencing pliers.

Sounds like you are building yourself a little shangrila mate.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

Vince,
This is the actual fence itself. This company holds the patents on the fence. With this fence you can lay a 1/4 mile at a time with 14 ft between posts, max. The end and corner posts are laid very similar to your description, with a bell looking hole, larger at the bottom and the post laid about 1 1/2 inches out of plumb in opposite directions. It looks fantastic and is relatively inexpensive, for a rail fence. I wanted a rail fence look for the place along both roads, with a 3-600 ft turn in on the corners to give the apperance of a total rail fence. The gates will be black rought iron looking aluminum with electric coded openers, including brick short walls that match the brick on the house and shop building.

www.centaurhtp.com/cen...llery.html

I am doing the rough shop and house drawings now using a cad program. When I am finished they will go to an archetect customer of mine for a full drawing and final design. The house I live in now my wife and I designed and built as the contractor. I have decided to do the next house a bit different.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Retirement Dirt Reply with quote

Vince wrote:
Bushmaster wrote:
Cotton candy, Cary...Just make sure it isn't yellow when you eat it. That's a sign that it has spoiled... Very Happy

I've heard that somewhere before Bushy...

Don't eat yellow snow NoNo don't eat the yellow stuff. Yuck

Hey Paul....somebody nicked the walls off'n ya house mate wtf Confused ....the roof reaches the ground. Laughing

Cheers, Vince

The cattle in the area have tried to take that roof off a few times. That is why we got the first panel - it powers an electric fence and two batteries. The other two we got in a kit with an inverter for the well pump and TV. There is a small Honda Generator for the washer/drier. With an annual snow fall of 6 feet or so the roof was designed that way - It is situated facing south and the angle gives full power from the sun on December 21 - the winter solstice. That is when we need it most.

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