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Oil in your rifles
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:04 am    Post subject: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

I was Elk hunting this past season (freeeeezzzing cold day). Well as luck would have it I found and elk, I took a shot missed, and as it was trotting off, I was trying to put another round in the magazine but I couldent get the action opened. I couldnt figure out what the heck happend to it. So I tried to force it open and I broke the bolt out of the locking mecanizim. I had to send it back to Browning to get it fixed and they never told me what happened in the magazine that caused it not to open. They just told me it needed a whole new bolt assembly (i knew that myself).
I was talking to my brother-in-law about this and he said that it could have been the oil in the gun seized it up due to the cold weather. I really have no clue what happend. Has this happened to any of you? Or do any of you have any ideas on what it may have been? Any info on this subject would be good.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

Howdy. It sounds like it froze. I personaly dont use oil on my actions or on the barels i use 100% pure silicone. When it rains the first thing that happens to the road is the oil comes to the top. I have gotton surface rust from hunting in the rain on guns with oil and never have with silicone. I have used silicone for about 10 years now. Just my two cents worth.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

Break Free CLP - live it love it use it. Cleaner, lubricant, and preservative.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

Seizures are common up here due to the extreme cold. I like Joe's idea of using the silicon. It certainly beats having the day ruined with an action lock up. Best wishes.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:16 pm    Post subject: I agree with these good folks Reply with quote

In really cold weather, I degrease and remove all traces of oil from the actions. My preference is to use powdered graphite as a lubricant. All the best...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

I've had good luck with actually using a light coating of BoreButter from my muzzleloader gear. Has that nice Pine smell which is great. I'm a big fan of it.

For non-freezing or wet days I use a light coating of RemLube sprayed onto a patch then lightly rubbed over all exposed metals.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

WHY BF CLP:

By using BREAK-FREE CLP to replace other cleaners,
lubricants and preservatives, the Military has achieved:

*Better and easier cleaning with fewer malfunctions
caused by accumulation of firing deposits.

*Improved and longer lasting lubrication for
improved weapon performance and reliability in
temperatures ranging from -50 C to +240 C --
increased mean time between failures.

*Weapons can be cleaned and left in a "grab-and-go"
condition. No need to remove grease or de-oil
before firing.

*Improved corrosion protection, in all climatic
conditions and environments.

*Easy, one step cleaning, lubricating and
preserving."




And I'm one lazy man. All in one that covers my temp range is da bomb.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

Howdy. You convinced me grimel ill give it a try!!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

I love my guns. I love shooting them and hunting with them. I clean them so I don't have to spend $$$ repairing them.

This stuff makes my life easier. Except for Wilson's Grease on a 1911/BHP BF-CLP is all I use anymore. That Mil-Spec is just insane.

BUT, if it ever fails I'll be the first one to step up and say so.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

Howdy. do you use it for your muzzleloaders Question

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

That would be a good question. I don't have a ML at the moment. I'll probably use soap and water first then CLP for storage.

I'm looking at a NEF Hunstman/Sidekick w/ removable rear breach plug for straightline cleaning.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

I put a good gun oil in my barrels, usually Rem Oil after cleaning since we have a rust problem up here. However, I remove it before firing the weapon, as it often makes your first shot go awry. Often when you hear a shooter complain of his first shot being out of the eventual group that's the reason, not always but often. Also, the oil is not good for wooden stocks. It seeps down into the trigger and bedding area making it soft and mushy. Best wishes.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

grimel wrote:
WHY BF CLP:

By using BREAK-FREE CLP to replace other cleaners,
lubricants and preservatives, the Military has achieved:

*Better and easier cleaning with fewer malfunctions
caused by accumulation of firing deposits.

*Improved and longer lasting lubrication for
improved weapon performance and reliability in
temperatures ranging from -50 C to +240 C --
increased mean time between failures.

*Weapons can be cleaned and left in a "grab-and-go"
condition. No need to remove grease or de-oil
before firing.

*Improved corrosion protection, in all climatic
conditions and environments.

*Easy, one step cleaning, lubricating and
preserving."


BF CLP is good stuff gimel, but the Aussie Military stopped using it because they believed that it was loosening screws through a "penetrating" action (allegedly).

I am using another product that the Military uses....Nycolube 127. Clean the bores with Sweets and use the Nycolube for the lubricating/rust prevention duties.

Like the idea of the silicone spray though....will definitely give that a try as where I shoot in Winter it can get down to -10 C at night.
Vince

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

Like grimel I prefer Break Free CLP. I’ve used it for years without a problem. Although I do at times forget to shake before using. Smile

FWIW, I would recommend whatever lubricant you choose dedicate it to that particular firearm, before switching to another product give the gun a good cleaning and remove any old lubricant. My father does gun repair and one of the more common malfunction problems he sees is gunned up actions. The main culprit, usually a combination of gun oils and WD-40. These lubricants combined with a good quantity of powder residue and field trash makes a thick and gummy mess over time. One of the first instances that comes to mind involved a very expensive O/U shotgun. The owner took this shotgun out for a opening day of dove hunting only to find it would not shoot. He became so discouraged he was ready to toss it in a nearby lake. Luckily that did not happen, instead he brought it in to see if it could be repaired. Over the years, the gun was seldom used but he had squirted a few drops of gun oil into the action and was using spray WD-40 to protect the outside metal. An inspection showed no worn or broken internal parts but the action works were so coated with gunk that it could not function. A heavy duty cleaning was the only thing needed to get it back into action.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Oil in your rifles Reply with quote

I have been using Hoppe's #9 gun oil for most of my life. Most of my hunting has been in the Great Northwest (Oregon, Washington and Idaho) where it rains a lot. In fact I haven't gone hunting up there when it wasn't raining or snowing. Hoppe's has served me well. Now Hoppe's has Bench rest Gun oil with weather guard. Have no idea if it is as good as #9, but I am trying it to see. I use extensively Hoppe's products.

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