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Ominivision1 Super Member


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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:03 am Post subject: The Tide is Changing |
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Take a look at these gallup polls and notice the trends on handgun bans, semi-autos for the US.
Gallup Polls For Guns
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lesterg3 Super Member


Joined: Nov 30, 2008 Posts: 1328 Location: Dixie
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:13 am Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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Good news if you trust polls.
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PaulS Super Member


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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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It is a response to the concept of the coming apocolypse. Either monitary or social collapse. People think a gun will keep them safe. Most own one but know nothing about it - including how to load and fire it.
Lets watch the trend....
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MacD Super Member


Joined: Apr 08, 2011 Posts: 1052 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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Our government has announced they will scrap the long gun registry while retaining the current licensing system. I am okay with that as it will at least require minimum training in safety for gun owners. We all know it won't keep guns out of the hands of criminals, nut jobs and the types that shouldn't be allowed to drive a car they are so inept. Safe storage requirements will remain as will restrictions on handguns etc.
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Ominivision1 Super Member


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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:04 am Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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MacD wrote: |
Safe storage requirements will remain as will restrictions on handguns etc. |
While it's good that Canada is moving forward, I have to ask if Safe Storage also applies to knives, baseball bats, etc.
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MacD Super Member


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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:29 am Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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Under the Criminal Code (all criminal law is federal here) all of those items can be considered weapons if used as such and also declared concealed weapons under certain circumstances. Of course they are pretty short range and limited in multiple lethality. If you store your samurai sword on the wall and some kid steals it to chop up the local drugstore clerk looking to score some oxy contin you probably won't be charged but I would expect a gaggle of tort lawyers to be at the funeral.
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Elvis Super Member


Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9066 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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sounds like Canada has similar laws to ours.
what the gun owning public needs is golf clubs to be used more in crime. imagine the out rage if you had to lock up the clubs in a safe the tees and balls in another, werent allowed to own more than 6 clubs and if you wanted to own a putter you had to have an alarm system in your home, and were only allowed to use it on a regestered cource and had to keep it secured while you visited the 19th hole. 
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Fireman_DJ Member


Joined: Aug 11, 2011 Posts: 104 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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Hey, you forgot the limit on the number of balls they can have at any one time.
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dhc4ever Super Member


Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 2944 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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Elvis wrote: |
sounds like Canada has similar laws to ours.
what the gun owning public needs is golf clubs to be used more in crime. imagine the out rage if you had to lock up the clubs in a safe the tees and balls in another, werent allowed to own more than 6 clubs and if you wanted to own a putter you had to have an alarm system in your home, and were only allowed to use it on a regestered cource and had to keep it secured while you visited the 19th hole.  |
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Hey, you forgot the limit on the number of balls they can have at any one time. |
Great minds think alike, my version of heaven.
Perhaps when the friggin lawyers and politicians are restricted in their pursuits and treated as criminals their view on inanimate objects will change.
Lets not forget the amount of water and poo required to keep a golf course.
Perhaps a danger template and extended safety zone for errant golf balls and a restriction on any "Wood" after all a wood is a long range weapon and could be used for sniping.....
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lesterg3 Super Member


Joined: Nov 30, 2008 Posts: 1328 Location: Dixie
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:21 am Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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I am unsure what "safe storage" means.
My son-in-law said he wanted to get a gun safe to keep all his firearms in.
I said that sounded like a great idea, that way when the government came to get his guns they would know exactly where to look.
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The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -- Thomas Jefferson
"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."--James Madison
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
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Elvis Super Member


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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:56 am Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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lesterg3 wrote: |
I am unsure what "safe storage" means.
My son-in-law said he wanted to get a gun safe to keep all his firearms in.
I said that sounded like a great idea, that way when the government came to get his guns they would know exactly where to look. |
well thats not as dumb as it sounds... when I last got my firearms licence renewed the person who inspected my gun cabinet gave me a big green sticker that said remember to notify police when you change adress to re register your firearms(or something along those lines) and asked me to put it on the door of the cabinet  I stuck it on the back  thats like a neon sign saying guns in here come and get them to a burgler...DOH...
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dan1dad Member


Joined: Aug 09, 2011 Posts: 247 Location: St.Louis Missery
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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Elvis wrote: |
sounds like Canada has similar laws to ours.
what the gun owning public needs is golf clubs to be used more in crime. imagine the out rage if you had to lock up the clubs in a safe the tees and balls in another, werent allowed to own more than 6 clubs and if you wanted to own a putter you had to have an alarm system in your home, and were only allowed to use it on a regestered cource and had to keep it secured while you visited the 19th hole.  |
problem is golf clubs are used for leisure by to many. Think of it, thousands more people are killed each year by automobiles in America, and no one wants to ban them cause they would have to walk their fat butts to the store. But a gun, that is used to probably kill nearly as many people as die in bathtub fall deaths a year is an easy target.
Knives, bats, clubs, shovels, even pencils are all used to kill people every year. But no outcry. Its only the "evil" firearm. Never the evil person who uses it.
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dhc4ever Super Member


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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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"Its only the "evil" firearm. Never the evil person who uses it."
Never let the facts get in the way of a one eyed UN driven crusade to see the common man disarmed and only the Govt with any weapons.
I have yet to see any inanimate object suddenly get up and cause injury without someone's hand on it.
You yanks are a thorn in the side of the faceless men with their new world order agenda (its in there just read any UN treaty to see disarmament of the civilian population is mentioned), Your founding fathers did a spectacular job when they wrote your constitution, no such luck here I'm afraid, we cant even get a bill of rights as apparently its too limiting.
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stovepipe Super Member


Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:41 am Post subject: Re: The Tide is Changing |
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Polls- tools used by the regime and media to bring things, that normally fly under the radar, to the attention of the unwashed masses thus spurring ignorant opinion by armchair internet hate-commandos. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE 2A SAYS WE CAN ARM OURSELVES. These polls and studies are lame wastes of money- regardless of the outcome, there's no such thing as an unbiased sample because not everyone has a say. Only a chosen few's POV get published.
Who the **** care's what "others" think about MY firearms and MY INDIVIDUAL RIGHT to self protection and ownership????
STAY THE HELL OUT OF MY WAY AND OUT OF MY LIFE AND YOU WILL HAVE ZERO PROBLEMS. THIS GOES FOR POLLERS, THE GOVT, EVERYONE.
Got a problem with that and dont like the Constitution or Bill of Rights? Get on over to China, tell the UN I said SUCK IT or......
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