View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
|
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
Some follow-up. I forgot to mention that I shot slugs through the Mossberg and got achieved a 3-shot cloverleaf off-hand at 25 yards. I was suitably impressed with this level of accuracy using foster slugs in a smooth bore. Also, a buddy I'm shooting 3-gun with did the La Rue match down in Austin this weekend. He borrowed a Benelli SA instead of using his pump. He ended up getting mixed up with a loading sequence because it wouldn't cycle a round out of the tube magazine. He ended up not completing the stage. This emphases the importance of always have a round cycle out of the magazine when you cycle the bolt in a tactical situation.
_________________ "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein |
|
Back to top |
|
|
chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
|
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:51 am Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
slimjim wrote: |
Not sure it is a feature I'd be interested in. I don't like bolts moving unless I release them. |
Look at it this way........it's the bolt release, just not the traditional button performing the function !!!
I see this set up as an advantage in tactical shooting.
_________________ Ask as many people needed, sooner or later your question will be answered the way you want it answered !!!
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington |
|
Back to top |
|
|
chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
|
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
slimjim wrote: |
I was suitably impressed with this level of accuracy using foster slugs in a smooth bore. |
Too many people under estimate the potential of a smooth bore with a slug !!!
_________________ Ask as many people needed, sooner or later your question will be answered the way you want it answered !!!
A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.
~George Washington |
|
Back to top |
|
|
slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
|
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
chambered221 wrote: |
Too many people under estimate the potential of a smooth bore with a slug !!! |
You still have to search for the right barrel-ammo combination. The shoulder just takes a beating while you are doing the accuracy evaluation.
_________________ "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein |
|
Back to top |
|
|
stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
|
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
Yes, my high school English teacher would be so proud of me for using punctuation correctly! Look how important that comma was! It changes the entire meaning, one that you missed stovey!
_________________ "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein |
|
Back to top |
|
|
stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
|
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:09 am Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
_________________ "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein |
|
Back to top |
|
|
stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9256 Location: south island New Zealand
|
Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
Slim old bean check out ATI advanced technoligies industries they make a good range of tacticle accesories for the mossbergs. the prices over here arent out of reach either.
_________________ You shot it You pluck it !
Them who eats the most duck eats the most feathers! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
|
Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
Elvis wrote: |
check out ATI advanced technologies industries they make a good range of tactical accessories for the mossbergs |
Thanks for the tip, Elvis. I don't think I want to add much to my Mossberg pump. I'm just going to shoot it in these tactical matches to learn. If I really like this type of shotgun match, then maybe I'll step up to a 12ga. I expect it will be a semi-auto.
_________________ "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein |
|
Back to top |
|
|
stovepipe Super Member
Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 4877 Location: Pine, Az.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
|
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
Well the results of the tactical shoot gun match are in. The good news is I didn't come in last (14 shooters). It was an interesting experience. The biggest challenge was reloading (need to practice that). There were 4 stages taking 20 to 30 rounds, a few of which were slugs. There was plenty of action with reactive steel, clay, and paper targets. I was the only one with a 20ga. I didn't feel like I was disadvantaged as the targets all fell in a similar manner to the 12ga birdshot. The semi-autos dominated the timing. Several with tube extensions were malfunctioning - the mag plungers would hang-up on the joint and stop feeding shells. The FNs (Winchester SX3s) ruled. I need to improve my reloading skills before I need to worry about a faster action.
The least fun part of the event was cleaning all the lead out of the barrel. Based on that, I don't think I will worry about cleaning powder residue from a gas operated semi-auto.
_________________ "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein |
|
Back to top |
|
|
slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
|
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Semi-Auto Shotgun "Test Drive" |
|
I reviewed the match results again this morning to make sure I hadn't missed any lessons to be learned. Caught 3 things. The stage I did the worst on had the most reloading. I may have loaded more than others because I had no targets missed (low points down). And last, a cowboy action shooter with a Win 97 pump came in second overall. I know is action is well honed as my pump is still getting worked in - shot more rounds through it this weekend than the rest of the time I had it. However, the cowboy action shooter was loading single shot through the ejector port. He beat all the semi-autos but one. I also think he was shooting reduced loads because my 20ga was getting more reaction with the targets than his 12ga. Still, running single shot he was only 7 seconds slower, 193 vs 200. Lots more to learn.
_________________ "To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth." - Theodore Roosevelt
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein |
|
Back to top |
|
|
slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
|