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W.T.F.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

I would ask that when we are discussing 4831 that we specify which one. Hogdon H4831 or IMR 4831. They are NOT the same powder....

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

I'd be willing to bet that the old manuals are talking about the IMR4831. That is the powder I use for most of my rifles actually, including my 270. But I use 130 grain accubonds

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Seer Manual #6 From 1964 Reply with quote

Gil Martin wrote:
This classic manual lists the following bullets for the .270: 100 gr., 130 gr., 150 gr., and 170 gr. The loads for the 170 gr. bullets and 4831 powder are as follows:

Starting Load 52 grs. Muzzle Vel. 2,646 200 Yd. Vel. 2,098

Mid Load 54 grs. Muzzle Vel. 2,719 200 Yd. Vel. 2,156

Max. Load 56 grs. Muzzle vel. 2,803 200 Yd. Vel. 2,222

Hope this helps. All the best...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

Which specific 170 grain projectile and what OAL are you using?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

yes it is .270 calibre they very old projectiles.
Ive loaded 52grn AR2213sc/Hodgdon H4831 and loads are fine and group around the 1" mark
found why 15" barrel
top of page has 2 tabs and I was looking in pistol tab...doah

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

speer fence post (long straight sided round nose) seated to max magazine length
when seating projectiles I cant have die set as normal I have to back it out of press as cant unscrew top enough to get projectile started.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

LOL, that does it.. I have no data at all for Speer 0.277 at 170 grains ..

Elvis could you measure the projectile length for me?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

30mm

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

Just sent you a PM.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

I just checked Speer's website and they no longer list a 170gr. bullet. That may be the reason the powder companies stopped providing load data for it. My 48th edition of Lymans also does not list 170gr. bullet for the .270.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

Elvis

I just ran some data thru LFAD and it came up with this for the speer 170gr round-nose bullet using IMR 4831.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

thanks guys that has me sorted now.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

wtf I think your still confused........ 170gr bullets belong in 30cals !!! Poke

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

chambered221 wrote:
:wtf: I think your still confused........ 170gr bullets belong in 30cals !!! Poke

or in 7 mm's Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:58 am    Post subject: Re: W.T.F. Reply with quote

.277 IS 7mm you lot with yah .284s are the odd ones out Poke Poke

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