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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:36 pm    Post subject: They didn't teach this in history class Reply with quote

This will make you rethink air rifles!

www.network54.com/Foru...ead+around

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Re: They didn't teach this in history class Reply with quote

WOW...that is wild mate. Never realised the air rifle had such a long history.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: They didn't teach this in history class Reply with quote

There's reference to this rifle in the journals of both Lewis and Clark as well as a very few histories of the expedition. From all accounts it wasn't as effective as they would have liked and accuracy was pretty erratic. It also required an elaborate charging device that was pretty labor intensive...which may be why they took Clark's slave York along!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: They didn't teach this in history class Reply with quote

Yeah NDNs are good for sumthin.... Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: They didn't teach this in history class Reply with quote

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There's reference to this rifle in the journals of both Lewis and Clark as well as a very few histories of the expedition. From all accounts it wasn't as effective as they would have liked and accuracy was pretty erratic. It also required an elaborate charging device that was pretty labor intensive...which may be why they took Clark's slave York along!

All good points, but the fact it fires in any rainstorm, and has a firing rate of just over 1 round per second is absolutely stunning for the time.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: They didn't teach this in history class Reply with quote

Thanks Slim, that was a great history lesson, never knew they had air rifles on the louis & clark expo. Read Book

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Here's a Link for more info on the rifle.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:02 pm    Post subject: Re: They didn't teach this in history class Reply with quote

Wow, OV1, that is very detailed information contained in that link! Some amazing technology for the time. One other aspect of the L&C expedition was that they did not loose one member of their party. Considering what they faced, that is amazing.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: They didn't teach this in history class Reply with quote

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All good points, but the fact it fires in any rainstorm, and has a firing rate of just over 1 round per second is absolutely stunning for the time.

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Absolutely...and by most accounts it stunned the Native Americans that not only was rate of fire far in excess of what their old "fusils" were capable of, but the relative quiet and lack of smoke had them scratching their heads.

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