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dhc4ever Super Member
Joined: May 26, 2011 Posts: 2944 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Australia
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:58 am Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Donut Slayer wrote: |
Oh, and the reason I decided to get it was, every once in a while my RCBS scale would act crazy. I mean, the beam would stay just under the balance point while I trickled powder then all of a sudden it would tipp straight up. WTH?????? I would take it apart (assuming dust) and clean it, wipe it down with a anti static dryer sheet but it would still malfunction. The next day it would be fine. There would be no air currents, no radio interference or any thing that I could figure out. My Lee scale wouldnt be affected, but I really dont care for that scale. |
I had a Lyman D7 start doing that. Stick ,suddenly not read as it always had, became downright random in its readings. POC only lasted 30 odd years , I still dont know why.
It got shelved and has been replaced with an RCBS 505.
The electronic stuff over here is very expensive considering its made in china, and I'm a Luddite, so analogue suits me just fine.
1/70,000th of a lb is close enough all other things considered.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5002 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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My process with the digital scale and dispenser is to throw a charge and dump it in the case. Then I start dispensing the next charge while I seat the bullet in the first.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5002 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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If the dispensing time and seating time overlap you save time in the long run.
(How's that for dealing with an accidental double post?)
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chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:59 am Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Dawgdad wrote: |
How accurate is it and how accurate do you need it to be?
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As accurate as I can be without getting stupid !!!
I do however worry more about a consistent charge. I don't mind the charge being off a little, I just don't want a big swing of plus or minus that will occur from time to time with a powder thrower.
I've come to the same realization you have but I can't bring myself to the point to just hold the case under the powder dispenser and stick a bullet in.
If I were loading the quantities you load for rifle maybe it would be easier to do !!!
What do you have to say about a electronic scales consistency as it relates to grains ???
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chambered221 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Pumpkinslinger wrote: |
One solution to a long dispense time is to throw most of your charge with a manual powder dispenser then let the automatic one trickle in the remaining amount. |
I'm beginning to think the economical way for me to go about this is to just buy a electronic scale and manually trickle the last little bit.
It'll be faster and cheaper !!!
If I'm going to spend that kind of money I don't want to take a step forward and backwards at the same time.
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11393 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Chambered...As you know I weigh all powder charges. I use a RCBS Powder Pro (photo above) that is around 20 years old. When I compare it to my RCBS 5-0-5 It matches. The other thing people worry about is electronic scale repeatability. weighing the same charge several times has proven mine to repeat every time.
As far as how fast it is. I can weigh and drop two to four times faster then waiting for a balance scale to quit bouncing. I also trickle the last grain or two manually with a trickler.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5002 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Here's an article about digital scales written by Allan Jones. If I remember correctly he edited Speer's reloading manuals for about 14 years.
www.shootingtimes.com/...ed_040411/
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chambered221 Super Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Bushmaster wrote: |
I use a RCBS Powder Pro (photo above) |
You sure bout that ???
I was originally considering the complete dispensing unit not just a scale. That's where I see the speed issue !!!
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Good read. Looks like he copied it from my Powder Pro manual. My electronic scale came with two calibration weights. (20 gm and 50 gm). Takes but a minute to calibrate.
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Well darnies Chambered...Must have been on another thread. But in keeping with the "above" part of it. We'll try again. This time "below"...
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chambered221 Super Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Yup .... that's it.... seen it a few times or so !!! Last time was in Would you shoot someone else's reloads? ......remember now ?
Donut Slayer...... got that thing broke in yet ???
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Donut Slayer Super Member
Joined: Jun 27, 2007 Posts: 594 Location: Pensacola, Florida
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Donut Slayer Super Member
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Ominivision1 Super Member
Joined: Sep 20, 2010 Posts: 2984 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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Interesting, thats a big improvement from a few years ago, I was over at hornadys web site and read the pdf on your machine and apparently when you buy it from the factory, the settings are very conservative. From reading it, you could gain quite a bit of speed buy adjusting a few settings, finding a happy medium with speed and accuracy would be great.
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5002 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Finally done it |
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The PACT must learn as it goes because it seems to increase speed slightly on each charge until it overshoots one, then it slows down a touch.
_________________ Mike
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