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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:34 am    Post subject: New stock or Not Reply with quote

I have a Rem 700 SPS Varmint in .308 and was wandering if I should build a new stock or just keep the old one. Im open for bedding material and type of wood.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

If I was looking at a stock issue for a varmint rifle I’d buy an H-S Precision or an McMillan and be done with it !!!

But, without knowing what trouble if any your having or your goals and objectives I don’t know that this is the best advise.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

Im looking towards making it my self because one cost and two it would give me something else to do

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:11 am    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

Crow,

What is it about the factory stock that you do not like?

Or, is this something you've just always wanted to do?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

Remingtons usually have a contact point near the front of the forearm not allowing you to dollar bill it. Once you've eliminated this re-seal it or sand it down nice with a dowel that matches your barrel dia. if it's synthetic. If you're up to bedding it go ahead then try it. By now you'll know if you want to actually do an entire stock and your work will produce a very accurate weapon or a project for your local gunsmith. be very careful about removing material that can be seen from the top near the edge of the channel. if you don't need to don't. When I'm bedding stocks I usually put a business card at the end of the stock and wrap the barrel and stock with a bicycle inner tube this floats the barrel without having to remove any material near the aforementioned joint and doesn't change the angle of the stock enough to hurt anything. bed the rear screw and the front lug.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

If you just want to put a new stock on it, and do some of the work yourself, check out Boyd's >> www.boydsgunstocks.com/

I bought an Encore stock from them and was pretty pleased.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

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Remingtons usually have a contact point near the front of the forearm not allowing you to dollar bill it. Once you've eliminated this re-seal it or sand it down nice with a dowel that matches your barrel dia. if it's synthetic. If you're up to bedding it go ahead then try it. By now you'll know if you want to actually do an entire stock and your work will produce a very accurate weapon or a project for your local gunsmith. be very careful about removing material that can be seen from the top near the edge of the channel. if you don't need to don't. When I'm bedding stocks I usually put a business card at the end of the stock and wrap the barrel and stock with a bicycle inner tube this floats the barrel without having to remove any material near the aforementioned joint and doesn't change the angle of the stock enough to hurt anything. bed the rear screw and the front lug.
Thanks for the dowel rod idea i'll try that. My neighbor is a WWII vet and has made quite a few guns. I want to improve accuracy of it, right now im getting around .75" groups at 100 yards and i wat to shrink it. I'm sure some of it is the shooter but not all of it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

My point about the neighbor is that if I need help I can ask him and if I do make a stock I will probably have him supervise me.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

HEY CROW, If youre using factory ammo .75 ain't bad what type of scope ya got. Alot of guys don't break the .5 until they start doing some serious prep work on their brass like a benchrester. What ammo ya using now? I f youre not bedded it sounds like that could fix it in combo with getting rid of that contact point . Can you dollar bill it now?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

HEY CROW, Ya still there? the reason I mentioned scope is that alot of people just put a scope on straight out of the box. Most can be adjusted for the shooter. If not for the parallax. blurry reticles can explain an extra .5 in a hurry. if you loosen the lock ring on the eyepeice and focus the reticle for you. don't look at it too long while doing this or your eyes will adjust to the reticle instead of the other way around. If it feels like the scope is sucking you in while your eyes are adjusting you need to focus the eyepiece. If youre picky enough to expect less than .75 there are alot of factors that probably need tweaked. All of them wouldn't fit under a "new stock or not" thread and I've probably gone too far already. Just trying to help awarify ya.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:24 am    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

Thanks brother, I have adjusted the reticle focus on the scope and I am currently shooting handloads. The .75 group was without trying to get a super tight group it was for sighting in after a long off season. As far as the dollar bill goes I thought I fixed it until I reassembled it and found another contact point shich I will probably work on soon due to spring break. Thanks again for the insight.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

Hey, where's that second point at? if I say cylinder section of the barrel does that make sense to ya? contact is o.k. and sometimes desireable there. that first inch or so of barrel from the receiver just about needs to touch unless you're doing a true pillar job. Which I've never found neccesary but have done on special request. THE CUSTOMER'S ALWAYS RIGHT. i'ts fun talkin to ya.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

the second point is about 1 to 2 inches from the forend of the stock. The first was lthe last 1/2 inch of the forend.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

You do know that the reasons Remington's have that point is it allows the barrel to vibrate more consistently shot to shot?

Lee-Enfields when accurized for target shooting also have the same fore stock pressure added to them as well.

About 7-10 pounds of pressure is preferred when doing this method.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: New stock or Not Reply with quote

if it works better after you remove it then you did the right thing, if it doesn't you can always put it back. I've done over 20 remingtons and they always worked better without.

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