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17 Cal Mouse Gun
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A17Shooter
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:39 pm    Post subject: 17 Cal Mouse Gun Reply with quote

Newest toy is a 17 HM2. Firing a 17 cal 17 gr VMax at 2100 fps. After getting the new barrel in my grubby hands I proceeded to strip the iron sights off and scrounged around in the gun closet until I came up with a Weaver 92A base, some high rings and that old Simmons 6-18 X scope. After installing the barrel on my pistol frame, boresighting and cleaning I declared it ready to go. All I had to do was wait for the weekend. (Bummer). Took it over to the range for the first time on 8/28/05.



Finally got to the range about 9:45 Sunday morn. Setup the chrono, rest, rear bag, etc. on the 50 yd line and proceeded to sight in. The first two shots impacted with a .16" separation. Good omen there. Oh yeah, perhaps some of you would like to know what kind of velocity you get from a 14" 17 HM2 barrel.

I fired 75 shots, of Hornady ammo, at the range and got chrono readings that included 60 of them split into nine groups. The firings started about 9:30 and I finished with the HM2 about 12:30. Velocity list:

2037
2049
2043
2077
2109
2076
2096
2093
2124.

Not too bad for a 14" barrel. Almost the same velocity as Hornady claims for their 17 HM2 ammo from a standard rifle barrel (2100 fps). I am attributing the velocity increase during the firings to the morning temperature increase. The temp went from 70 degrees to 94 degrees during the time I was working with the HM2 barrel.

If you are interested my four 50 yd groups averaged 0.5". Not spectacular but, not bad. I wasn't paying any attention to the wind so the 100 yd groups spread out considerably.

A good thing about this cartridge is that you can see all of your bullet impacts. Even when using an 18X rifle scope the recoil is so small that you still see the impact. All I have to do now is get out to the squirrel fields and pop a few. Evil or Very Mad

Gary

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 17 Cal Mouse Gun Reply with quote

I'm guessin' that if they're in a "field" they must be ground squirrels. That fancy rimfire ammo is too costly for me. I can reload for the .223 for the same price. Although I think they'ld be fun, I can't justify owning one.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: 17 Cal Mouse Gun Reply with quote

We took a CZ in 17HMR on our last prairie dog outing. It had come into the store as a trade and I wanted to make sure it was a good shooter before selling it -- at least that was the rationalization. Too, I am NOT a fan of the 17 caliber, having retired a 17 Remington for some rather erratic performance on coyotes.

So, I mounted a side focus Sightron on the CZ and took four boxes of various 17 HMR ammo and put the rifle in the truck with other more serious iron. I should have taken four more boxes as our group kept fighting over who would get to shoot it next. It did a great job to an arbitrary limit of 150 yds. Granted, we had little wind, but, the non existent recoil gave each shooter a great view of Red Mist in the afternoon. If the bullet hit, there were no wounds just flying pieces of fur and itty bitty body parts.

We started by cleaning the barrel every 25 rounds but soon found we could shoot a whole box of 50 without any accuracy problems. It cleaned up quick and easy. Accuracy was outstanding. All brands of ammo (CCI, Hornady, Federal, Remington) gave sub MOA and shot close enough to the same POI.

One of the guys on the trip bought the rifle a few days ago. He had never considered it before shooting it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: 17 Cal Mouse Gun Reply with quote

Nice looking rig A17Shooter!

I love my 17HMR and always wondered how the HM2's shot. I've seen some semi auto guns in it and think it would be too expensive of a temptation Smile In a bolt or pistol would be alot different.

What is the price on HM2's per box lately? I bought a couple more boxes of HMR at $5.99 so the price is still falling.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: 17 Cal Mouse Gun Reply with quote

Paying about 4.99 at midway for HM2. Eley & Remington are between $7 & $8. I don't shop real hard.

A17Shooter

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