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Get the lead out! gun cleaning
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:28 am    Post subject: Re: Get the lead out! gun cleaning Reply with quote

Somebody drop you on your head Gunny?

Talk about taking a discussion waaay outta context.

No where did I say copper could NOT be removed....in fact I stated "mechanical removal such as vigorous brushing"...din't I?

We're talking about copying the Foul Out System...not military bore cleaner.

Right now I clean my non moly'd and my non Ultra Bore Coted bores much like your Troopers do.....elbow grease.

Get a grip dude...............
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:11 am    Post subject: Re: Get the lead out! gun cleaning Reply with quote

"an acid which no sane person would want to put in their rifle."

You did not write the above quote?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Get the lead out! gun cleaning Reply with quote

Try to keep with the context as it was typed, a skill most learn before the 6th grade.......

wildswalker wrote:
His opinion of the Foul Out system is that, with the given solution of Copper Acetate, it's only working on the copper oxide as that's the easiest to "loosen" and make "stick" to the rod. To actually "plate" the copper metallics onto the rod would require the solids to be put into "solution" and that would require a much more powerful electrolosis medium than just ammonia, or the copper acetate. Likely an acid which no sane person would want to put in their rifle.

Translation, with regards to the Foul Out System.....

It's my Dad's opinion the Foul Out is NOT removing the mechanically applied metallic copper deposits, but RATHER it is removing the copper oxides.

Put another way........

The "copper" that's by the masses thought to be removed are the copper oxides, in his opinion, which are EASIER to remove and given that the "SOLUTION" of Copper Acetate is WEAK, copper oxide would be the only thing REMOVED by the Foul Out System.........

Therefore, to remove the copper metallics from the bore WITH an electro plating method (Foul Out System), IT WOULD REQUIRE THE USE OF AN ACID TOO STRONG FOR THE GUN METAL TO TAKE.....and therefore not practical nor safe to do so.

No sane person would want to do that.....savvy?

Again Gunny, did someone drop you on your head.....................?
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