HuntingNut
HuntingNut
   Login or Register
HomeCommunity ForumsPhoto AlbumsRegister
     
 

User Info

Welcome Anonymous


Membership:
Latest: Ak-one-shot
New Today: 0
New Yesterday: 0
Overall: 11856

People Online:
Members: 0
Visitors: 24
BOT: 3
Total: 27
Who Is Where:
 Visitors:
01: Forums
02: Forums
03: Your Account
04: Forums
05: Home
06: Home
07: Forums
08: Home
09: Forums
10: Forums
11: Your Account
12: Photo Albums
13: Home
14: Forums
15: Forums
16: Forums
17: Forums
18: News
19: Forums
20: Forums
21: Forums
22: Home
23: Photo Albums
24: Forums
  BOT:
01: Photo Albums
02: Forums
03: Forums

Staff Online:

No staff members are online!
 

Coppermine Stats
Photo Albums
 Albums: 306
 Pictures: 2309
  · Views: 222721
  · Votes: 1242
  · Comments: 85
 

Support our Advertisers

7mm Remington Mag good or bad?
Discussion that doesnt fit other Topics
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » General

View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
gobbuster
Member
Member


Joined: Dec 20, 2007
Posts: 51

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

I was watching one of those hunting shows and the host was talking about his Christensen and stated that there was absolutly no metal in the bore or chamber. Was he inaccurate about that? I'll look them up on the internet and let ya all know what I find out. Although, I'm sure you guys know what your talking about. Dimitri sounds real informed on this subject.
Speaking of custom actions, I just finished beding, lapping, and mounting a nice 3.5x10 Leupold a model 110 Savage. This rifle is a nail driver now. Did the same thing to all my actions and it does make a big difference, with exception to a model 70 ultra light mountain rifle that never improved.
Well guys, I'm going to get out and shoot some dove and quail today.
Gobbuster
Back to top
View user's profile
Dimitri
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 25, 2005
Posts: 5863
Location: Southern Ontario

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

GobBuster,

The TV show was wrong.

Quote::
Q: What does a carbon barrel consist of?
Written by Carms Team

Christensen Arms uses a Shilen select match grade, 416R stainless steel blank, which is machined down and wrapped in carbon.

As they state they make the liner out of a Shilen barrel. There is a metal liner in the barrel.

A picture from there website showing that the liner is not thin all the way through but gradually builds up into the chamber area and thins out towards the muzzle. Smile



Dimitri

_________________
A thousand hills, but no birds in flight, ten thousand paths, with no people's tracks. A lonely boat, a straw-hatted old man, fishing alone in the cold river snow.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
gobbuster
Member
Member


Joined: Dec 20, 2007
Posts: 51

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

Thank you Dimitri, you have deffinitly cleared up the subject for me. What is your opinion on this new concept. Are they worth the price tag? And do they have any more life span than a good barrel such as a Douglas? I've never personally shot the barrel out of any high power like a friend I have that has shot several out in his .270.
Merry Christmas
Gobbuster
Back to top
View user's profile
Dimitri
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 25, 2005
Posts: 5863
Location: Southern Ontario

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

Not sure if they are wroth the money unless you want a light weight rifle. Its a pretty expensive gun and you can purchase guns for that kind of money (4000$ for a basic rifle) from other sources for cheaper.

HS Precision for example sells rifles that are not as expensive (base price starts at about 2,000$ if memory serves) and they garrentee 3 shot groups at under 1/2 MOA at 100 yards from their rifles (30 caliber and under). And there are many more companies out there that have similar accuracy gerrentees for their rifles.

But in the end depends on what your son likes to shoot and what he wants it for.

Dimitri

_________________
A thousand hills, but no birds in flight, ten thousand paths, with no people's tracks. A lonely boat, a straw-hatted old man, fishing alone in the cold river snow.
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
outlawlineman
Rookie Member
Rookie Member


Joined: Dec 05, 2005
Posts: 12
Location: Central Coast California

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

This is from the Christensen Arms web site. Actually not too bad if to have a rifle that is shooting sub par.

Install custom barrel with match grade chamber and Shilen barrel liner.(Includes facing the front of your action) $995
Turn down your barrel and install our patented Carbon Wrap $599

Install Christensen Arms Graphite Stock. Remington Only.
(Includes glass bedding)
$425
Install Custom Stocks: MPI, Rimrock, Mcmillan, or any after market stock.(Does not include glass bedding) $499
Modify your existing stock and free float your barrel $75
Install our Titanium Muzzle Brake $195
Converting Rem 700 bolt faces to magnums or larger size.
(Includes installing a Sako style extractor) $100
Glass Bed your Action $115
Pillar Bed your Action $125
Accurize your Action $200
Teflon Coat Your Action $150
Back to top
View user's profile
hunterjoe21
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Mar 30, 2007
Posts: 1122
Location: North East Ohio

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

outlawlineman wrote:
This is from the Christensen Arms web site. Actually not too bad if to have a rifle that is shooting sub par.

Install custom barrel with match grade chamber and Shilen barrel liner.(Includes facing the front of your action) $995
Turn down your barrel and install our patented Carbon Wrap $599

Install Christensen Arms Graphite Stock. Remington Only.
(Includes glass bedding)
$425
Install Custom Stocks: MPI, Rimrock, Mcmillan, or any after market stock.(Does not include glass bedding) $499
Modify your existing stock and free float your barrel $75
Install our Titanium Muzzle Brake $195
Converting Rem 700 bolt faces to magnums or larger size.
(Includes installing a Sako style extractor) $100
Glass Bed your Action $115
Pillar Bed your Action $125
Accurize your Action $200
Teflon Coat Your Action $150

All good "wishlist" stuff.

Fact-of-the-matter is that most factory rifles with handloads will outshoot the average hunter. Most hunters (notice I said "HUNTERS", not "SHOOTERS") would benefit more by spending their money on additional ammo and range time rather than having CA tweak their guns. (CA has billed themselves as a long range "HUNTING" rifle manufacturer in every advertisement I've seen)

_________________
My 1911 is more effective than your 911.
Back to top
View user's profile
gobbuster
Member
Member


Joined: Dec 20, 2007
Posts: 51

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

Hi there hunterjoe21,
I totally agree with you that most hunters would benefit more with range time. Most hunters I have guided were not confident enough, or skilled enough to take a 200 yard shot at game. The majority of hunters don't even know how to sight their rifles in properly. More often than not they will have the local sporting good store bore sight it thinking that is sufficient. I worked in a sproting good store and the gun smith bore sighted a rifle I had just mounted a new Leupold on and it wouldn't even get on the paper at 200 yds. Honestly I don't believe there is any substitute for benching a rifle. In fact, most will try to sight in off hand, unable to get a consistency by which to make changes to the scope adjustments accordingly. A couple of months ago I was at our local range and there was about 10 other people getting ready for hunting season doing exactly as I just described. A man and his wife asked me if I would sight in his wife's .243 he had just bought for her and was upset that the gun shop had not bore sighted it in correctly. I sighted it in for her and was able to help both of them with their shooting skills. By the time I left the range both of them were putting most of their shots in the center area of the target at 200 yds. The gentleman was honest and admitted he has never actually been able to hit any where near the center of the target at even 100 yds. until I showed him how to bench his rifle. Lets face it, if a person can't even hit the target effectively how are they going to ever start enjoying the sport and want to get others involved. I know I get a little carried away in this this area of our beloved sport, but I want to see average folks really enjoying it and getting all they can out of this type of recreation. Its a dying sport and is in need of more supporters to stop it from becoming extinct. I understand that not everyone wants to spend the money on a spotting scope, shooting rest, chrony, and all the other tools some of us more serious shooters use. But one can't just not sight in their rifle and expect to hit an animal at even 100 yds. without at least some type of steady rest. I think I'm done now.
Gobbuster
Back to top
View user's profile
gobbuster
Member
Member


Joined: Dec 20, 2007
Posts: 51

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

Thanks Demitri,
I didn't realize they were that expensive. I'll probably just get him a Ruger M77 in 7 mag. and I'll do the fine tuning myself. He has an M77 in .270 and its a real shooter. It easn't all that bad right out of the box before I floated the barrel, lapped the action & barrel, pillar bedded the action, and mounted up a nice Leupold 3.5x10x50. my boys of which I have 5 and 1 daughter, all have been raised with guns and taught how to bench them, benefit from well tuned firearms which is the only reason I work these production rifles for them. Speaking of production rifles, I really like the Savage 110. I have several of them and my boys have a few as well. These inexpensive rifles are really good shooters and are as easy to customize as are the Remingtons. My buddy builds some really nice rifles using 98 actions and can't hardly believe how accurate one of my 110s in .280 is at 200 yds. It cleanly puts 5 in the same whole at 200 yds. consistently. And all I did to it was glass bedded the action, lapped the action/barrel, and floated the barrel. This particular rifle was very badly head spaced when I took it out of the box. And to my surprise I took my go no go guage to the local gun shop and randomly started checking actions on new rifles and a lot of the Savage's had serious issues in this so critical of an area. I did bench this 110 before I corrcted the action and the groups were terrible. But thanks again for the heads up on those CA's and I think I'll just stick to my inexpensive customized productions.
Gobbuster
Back to top
View user's profile
gobbuster
Member
Member


Joined: Dec 20, 2007
Posts: 51

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

Does anyone want a guided turkey hunt this spring? I will guided for free and have a near 200% sucess ratio (2 birds in New Mexico). I've been guiding for over 20 years. All I ask is you pay for the expenses of hunting. I don't want any money at all. This hunt is in the Cloudcroft area, S.W. New Mexico about 80 N. E. of El Paso, Texas. One very important matter is your ability to climb a steep slope at elevations of over 8 thousand feet at 4:00 AM in the morning. I've had many clients pay for a hunt they can't endure. So be sure you are personally up to a grueling work out. In this neck of the woods turkey hunting is very physical long before you ever get set up for the shot. I don't allow roost shooting as some turkey hunters do. All you need to bring is your shotgun, or bow, some warm water proof clothing/ boots. I prefer to take someone that has never killed a turkey or one called in so I can enjoy the look on their face when that gob comes strutting in.
Gobbuster
Back to top
View user's profile
glockman55
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Dec 12, 2005
Posts: 831
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

gobbuster wrote:
Does anyone want a guided turkey hunt this spring? I will guided for free and have a near 200% sucess ratio (2 birds in New Mexico). I've been guiding for over 20 years. All I ask is you pay for the expenses of hunting. I don't want any money at all. This hunt is in the Cloudcroft area, S.W. New Mexico about 80 N. E. of El Paso, Texas. One very important matter is your ability to climb a steep slope at elevations of over 8 thousand feet at 4:00 AM in the morning. I've had many clients pay for a hunt they can't endure. So be sure you are personally up to a grueling work out. In this neck of the woods turkey hunting is very physical long before you ever get set up for the shot. I don't allow roost shooting as some turkey hunters do. All you need to bring is your shotgun, or bow, some warm water proof clothing/ boots. I prefer to take someone that has never killed a turkey or one called in so I can enjoy the look on their face when that gob comes strutting in.
Gobbuster

Thanks for the offer, But I can shoot a Turkey on my own place here in FLAT 600 feet above sea level Michigan.. If I'm going to climb mountains for something it's gonna have to be more than a bird. Like Elk, Deer, etc.

How much for an Archery Elk Hunt?

_________________
Are you boys gonna pull them pistols or whistle dixie?
Back to top
View user's profile Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
vint2
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 18, 2005
Posts: 1216
Location: Iowa

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

I am always amazed by people who never go to the range and shoot and never expect problems with a weapon that would be taken care of if they shot once in a while!!! Confused Smile

_________________
All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing!
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
glockman55
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Dec 12, 2005
Posts: 831
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

vint2 wrote:
I am always amazed by people who never go to the range and shoot and never expect problems with a weapon that would be taken care of if they shot once in a while!!! Confused Smile

??? did I miss something?

_________________
Are you boys gonna pull them pistols or whistle dixie?
Back to top
View user's profile Yahoo Messenger Photo Gallery
vint2
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: Nov 18, 2005
Posts: 1216
Location: Iowa

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

No, I am several posts late with my response!!!!! Embarassed

_________________
All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing!
Back to top
View user's profile Send e-mail Visit poster's website Photo Gallery
Vince
Super Member
Super Member


Joined: May 25, 2005
Posts: 10735
Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

Had a very busy Christmas, hence the late post. But I'm here now. Very Happy

gobbuster wrote:
I know I get a little carried away in this this area of our beloved sport, but I want to see average folks really enjoying it and getting all they can out of this type of recreation. Its a dying sport and is in need of more supporters to stop it from becoming extinct.

Damn fine sentiments gobbuster. I personally won't argue with them. The more people, especially youngun's, you get interested in the shooting sports, the more chance you have of beating the antis.

Cheers, Vince

_________________
Cheers, Vince Cheers

Illegitimi non carborundum
(Never let the bastards grind you down)

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.

It's been lonely in the saddle since the horse died.

Back to top
View user's profile AIM Address MSN Messenger Yahoo Messenger
gobbuster
Member
Member


Joined: Dec 20, 2007
Posts: 51

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 7mm Remington Mag good od bad? Reply with quote

I know this sounds rather unacceptable to some folks. But I taught my Son's and Daughtter to shoot guns when they were old enough to pull the trigger. I taught them safety to the extreme and now that they are adults they are passing it on to their children and spouses. Frankly I won't shoot or hunt with weekend warriors for safety reasons. I've been nearly killed so many times I honestly can't count. All the result of lack of consideration for safety. One of the reasons I like Arizona is we have tons of public land that is not accessible by any means but foot. It help weed out the dangerous ones that manage to shoot their selves or someone else. I don't go to the range any more because it isn't supervised. I now go out into the country to shoot. My wife and I have always kept loaded guns in our home and because we showed our children what guns do they never touched the guns unless it was with supervision and in the right enviroment. in fact they would restrict their friends from the curosity of wanting to pick up the guns by letting my wife or I know when a friend was in our home. We teach them about other dangers that kill and guns are no different. As I stated, we showed them what guns can do by letting them see an animal that was shot with all the blood and gore. It gives a clear immage of death without having to manufacture circumstances or exagerate.
Gobbuster
Back to top
View user's profile
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index » General
Page 6 of 9
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Advertisements
 


Valid CSS! Valid HTML 4.01!
Click to check if this page is realy HTML 4.01 compliant for speed :)

All logos and trademarks in this site are property of HuntingNut.com.
The comments are property of their posters, all the rest © 2011 by HuntingNut.com
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy

.: Upgraded to DragonFly 9.2 by Dizfunkshunal :.