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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Worth reading Reply with quote

I got the folowing in an email from someone and it makes you wonder how secure/insecure we are in our own country.


Maybe this will help us understand the Muslim Religion and that guy Allah!!!

This will stir some thoughts The Jihad....... Interesting this appears to sum up what we are faced with. Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in Canada and the United States especially in the minority race. Allah or Jesus? by:Rick Mathes Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?" The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes." I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven. The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?" You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame. Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs. I think everyone in the US and Canada should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized. Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry.

Think about this, with all the Islamic people now in the Canada and the USA , building their Temples............. Do we really feel safe here in our own country ?...... Can we reclaim our world ? Or is it already too late ?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Worth reading Reply with quote

What is being pointed out here is not new news. It is for some only because our media & politicians don't want to talk about the truth. I wonder how long it's going to take before the cookie crumbles Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: Worth reading Reply with quote

Interesting Confused

While i do not in any way promote or condone what happens with holy wars, not all Muslim practice "Jihad" and do not believe the "new" and despicable extremist ways.

I have friends (and relatives) that are Muslim, and they don't even believe the destruction of their own religion.

Just like in pretty much every religion, there are extremists......And while i may catch $h!t for this comment.......In my area, I've seen more destruction and "hate" crimes from people picketing, rallying, and trying to stop the movie DaVinchi Code. Sad

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Worth reading Reply with quote

You are right 10ring, although there seem to be many bad ones, they are not all bad. It's just like any other race, group or whatever. There are bad in every bunch. What makes what these extremists do so mind boggling is the fact that they can be so brain washed into doing some of these things.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Worth reading Reply with quote

There is a bandwagon for everybody. I too am amazed at what I see people thinking in the media. Sad There is so much hate in this world. When we finally get out of Iraq, the infighting will continue just like it has for thousands of years. There is always someone trying to stir up the pot, Evil or Very Mad and for what purpose? Even they don't know.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Worth reading Reply with quote

1895ss wrote:
You are right 10ring, although there seem to be many bad ones, they are not all bad. It's just like any other race, group or whatever. There are bad in every bunch. What makes what these extremists do so mind boggling is the fact that they can be so brain washed into doing some of these things.

Yep, the few are just like regular old Bad People. Just want to blow something up and kill as many people as possible, maybe learn alittle about flying planes, just tickled to death to die in the process. Perhaps they can get alittle more of our college education and learn to be a little more efficient at it. Hey, maybe all of the bad guys will just blow themselves all up and the problem will be gone. God forbid we ever catch one using our illegal wire tap methods. See it now. Sorry about you're inconvience sir, just try to stay out of trouble OK. And here's a few boxs of C-4 for all the trouble we've caused you. Now dandelions in my yard are a real problem. Sorry about the minor rant. Some things just set me off.--tr

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Worth reading Reply with quote

Yeah, mostly brain washing does play a great role in this.....then there is a person with great hateful words that are soo convincing, vulnerable people that aren't accepted, or don't know how to cope with their identity/problem end up following. Pretty much, there is a following for everything and anything, no matter what.

Media however plays a key role in getting the word out and should be limited on what they televise with tapes from Osama and other so called "leaders". An acquaintance of mine had been in the war and is going back to Iraq. But what he told me about the BS the media broadcasts just to get ratings is/was astonishing! But what they don't broadcast is the Army taking out and adding different armor due to the fact certain bombs go right through without even a problem. The media will mostly cover also depending upon political views.....and i was told this by a few dozen that had served/still serves in the military.

But with the legality of wire tapping and invaded privacy.........I don't have a problem with it at all! If i were a terrorist or a drug dealer then maybe i'd be scared. But the average person has nothing to worry about. Even my friend was worried that his girlfriend was going to find out he was cheating on her because of the WT hoopla.

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