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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:56 pm    Post subject: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

CZ Scorpion carbine, 9x19mm Parabellum, Burris Fastfire III sight, Streamlight TLR-4 light and laser, 30 round mag with Midway "Bail Out Bag" holding 6 mags. Still haven't had a chance to shoot it! Wait until something goes "bump in the night" again...


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

That gun looks a whole lot more impressive than the ammo it uses.
It must be more dangerous than my 458 magnum because it's black and... scary!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

Why 9mm Punkin? Scratch
I would have thought that a more lethal "knockdown" round would be a better option..say a .40 S&W, the .45 ACP, a .45LC or even a .41SP or .44SP.

Whichever way, that is one good looking home defence weapon mate.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

Well Vince, they only make that in 9mm. I do have a Ruger PC4 (.40 S&W) in the gun cabinet too.

One reason I picked it up is because my daughter couldn't deal with the noise from a .223 with a muzzle brake. I gotta admit, her boyfriend's AR has an aggressive brake and is LOUD! I've been looking for a Levang flash suppressor for my AR but they may have quit making them.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

I gotta ask - why put a brake on a 223? They bark enough without one. Is it for a practical purpose?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

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Well Vince, they only make that in 9mm. I do have a Ruger PC4 (.40 S&W) in the gun cabinet too.

One reason I picked it up is because my daughter couldn't deal with the noise from a .223 with a muzzle brake. I gotta admit, her boyfriend's AR has an aggressive brake and is LOUD! I've been looking for a Levang flash suppressor for my AR but they may have quit making them.

Fair call mate...fair call.

I'm with Grey Wolf on the brake too mate...makes a noisy round even noisier.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

My personal preference on the AR is a flash suppressor instead of a brake, because of the noise. Not that I have any great experience in this area.

I just saw a test on brakes vs. no brakes on ARs. The brakes did make a difference in recoil, possibly allowing a faster follow-up shot. It might be interesting to try this experiment with the 9mm carbine. My bet would be that the brake makes no real difference with the lower pressure.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m439H_r1bg

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

Upper left is the Ruger AR556, .5.56 NATO. Lower left is the CZ Scorpion, 9mm NATO. Upper right is the Ruger Mini-14 (aftermarket), 5.56 NATO. Lower right is the Ruger Scout, 7.62 NATO.

The Mini-14 is pretty loud. I've had folks at the range come over to see what I was shooting, and to complain!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

Huh, I've no real experience with these rifles just always thought a brake was to tame the larger calibers and 223 doesn't really fall into that category. Other than a semi 22 that the fil left for my son we don't have any semi's in the house.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Just because I can, again Reply with quote

Beautiful gun.. I am envious.
Sadly the govt seems to think that they are deadlier than a truck.

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