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Crackshot Super Member
Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Mich
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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I use AA5744 almost exclusivly in my 1874 Sharps, It shoots GREAT . the last time I went to the shooting range, I had loaded some Home cast lead 400gr(wheel weights) over AA5744. and hit a 12 inch dinger plate all 20 times at 400 yards.
AA5744 works good in the old Blackpowder cases because it fills them better than the newer powder's.(load density)
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kbis Super Member
Joined: Apr 05, 2005 Posts: 312 Location: East, Texas
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:25 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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Crackshot
I have heard some great things about AA5744. Like it is about as close to duplicating black powder loads without using black powder in the 45/70. I have loaded up several loads for my Sharps but have not tried them yet, waiting for my chrony to arive. I have also heard that it works well in 44 mag which I hope to try next week.
What weight bullets are you using in the 45/70 and what kind of loads?
Ken
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Crackshot Super Member
Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Mich
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:10 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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I'll have to get my log books out, I've tried different ones, most shot very well.I'll go to the shop and get them out latter and get you some good loads(for my rifle).
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damgoodshot Rookie Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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I use mostly RL7 but IMR3031 works well also!
My elk load is 53.5 gr of RL7 with a Hornady 350 gr fn = 2147 fps - use with caution as this is a hot load - shoots 1 1/2" groups with my new 1886 win. 26" barrel - 1 shot kill at 235 yds - broke both front shoulders! just about breaks mine too!
Had to extend the lead .125 as could not seat bullets & crimp in the cannelure.
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Flint54 Member
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POP!! Member
Joined: Dec 02, 2005 Posts: 269 Location: Cheyenne, Wy
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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1895ss Super Member
Joined: Jul 21, 2005 Posts: 2612 Location: Not Here...!!
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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damgoodshot wrote: |
I use mostly RL7 but IMR3031 works well also!
My elk load is 53.5 gr of RL7 with a Hornady 350 gr fn = 2147 fps - use with caution as this is a hot load - shoots 1 1/2" groups with my new 1886 win. 26" barrel - 1 shot kill at 235 yds - broke both front shoulders! just about breaks mine too!
Had to extend the lead .125 as could not seat bullets & crimp in the cannelure. |
I load 56.8 grain of IMR 3031 behind 350 gr Hornady's in my 1895ss (22" BBL) Marlin and it groups very well with no signs of excessive pressure. Vel is just under 2100 fps. It drops deer like they were hit by the hammer of Thor. This is my Elk load but I have not been able to use it on Elk ( for several diff reasons) since I loaded it.
CAUTION !!!!!!!!!!!... This is MAX load in a Marlin so if anyone wants to duplicate it reduce load by at least 10% and work up............ !!!!!
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roklok Super Member
Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 608 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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RL7 is the only powder I have tried but am very pleased. For my 1895 Marlin I use 52 grains behind a 400 grain Speer flat nose @2060 FPS. Max load listed in Speer manual for modern lever actions.
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jameslee Rookie Member
Joined: Jan 31, 2006 Posts: 20 Location: kiski twp armstrong co pa
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jameslee Rookie Member
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:03 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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5744, under a 400 grain cast bullet. has worked very well for me in two Marlins. If I do my part I can get around 1.5" groups at 100 yds off the bench. I haven't chronoed them but they are easy on the shoulder. By the way, wouldn't cast bullet be easier on the Trapdoor than jacketed? When I load .45-70s I use cast bullets for the mild "factory level" loads usable in all guns and use jacketed bullet for my hotter "Marlin only" loads. Easy way to tell them apart.
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ElyBoy Super Member
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 1541 Location: Forest Lake Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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I use 50gr of 3031 with 400gr Speer Flat Points for my 45/70 Marlin Guide Gun.
I have tried other powders and loads, but with my favorite powder 3031, my accuracy is much better than with the other powder.
Using the other powders, and if you want me to, I can check in my record book on the type of powder and loads, I get a pretty good "crack" on the recoil.
The 3031 is more of a "push" for recoil.
If it were me, I would stick with IMR 3031.
Eric
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use enough gun Rookie Member
Joined: Oct 20, 2007 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:42 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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For my Marlin 1895 the only load I shoot for the 300 grain JHP is 60 grains of H4198. It's murder on deer. For cast bullet shooting MP5744 powder is tough to beat. Dave
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SwampFox Super Member
Joined: Jul 15, 2005 Posts: 1040 Location: Destin, Florida
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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My powders of choice are #7, Unique, H-4198, H-4227 and 2015 BR. But I use a good bit more powder than most because of the 98 Mausers. I use the 300 almost exclusively and run a few 525 RCBS bullets now and then (when CRS allows a foggy memory of the last time).
Ed
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damianss Member
Joined: Nov 21, 2007 Posts: 25
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 powder ?? |
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I been using some H375 powder (60 gr) and 500 grain cast bullets in my buffalo classic getting about 1910fps average.. Really kicks hard but i think it will be an awesome stopper.
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