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Vince Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp |
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1895ss wrote: |
Welcome liberty4u2. I use a Lee Factory Crimp Die to crimp my 45-70 cases and it does not matter what length the case is. I also think they are much easier to use and quicker to set up and do a better job. Oh by the way, I think the die costs something like $15 or $20 in the U.S. |
That is a damn fine idea mate...never gave that a thought, but you are totally correct...case length is not an issue with the FCD. I'll give meself a bag full of uppercuts for missing that one.
Still...make sure all your cases are the same length for consistency.
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp |
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wiersy111 wrote: |
Prairie dogs would be great fun with a 45-70. |
Yes I have had a lot of fun shooting gophers with mine. They disintegrate most of the time.
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That is a damn fine idea mate...never gave that a thought, but you are totally correct...case length is not an issue with the FCD. I'll give meself a bag full of uppercuts for missing that one.
Still...make sure all your cases are the same length for consistency.
Cheers, Vince |
No need for uppercuts Vince, besides you might open up those stitches and I hope that's healing nicely. I use the FCD on my 35 remington (Marlin 336) as well.
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Maqwa Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:05 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp |
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The Lee Factory crimp die probably would solve the problem . As for the Dies , It is Hornady that is making the brass shorter for that bullet , so I would call them as ask if they have a crimp die for the shorter brass.
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liberty4u2 Rookie Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:52 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp |
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Good morning all, Went to local gun store over the weekend. The kid at the counter stared like a pig poisoned when I asked about anything besides AR's. I love AR's too. But, I need Buffalo bullets! He said he'd try to get me a Lee crimp die(LCD). After he said "what cal. was that again", for the third time I figured I better get it myself. So I ordered it right from Lee less than $20.00. Now for some molds- a 300gr and 405 to get started. Almost got some from Lee but I have some in .357 already that get too hot too quick so I'll get RCBS. Those Hornady cases are growing a little but they will separate before they ever get to trim length. So I'll be needin more cases too. Hee-Haw! this gun is fun though! Of course I don't see many Buff's these days but I know where some mighty big woodchucks roam so I'm "plannin a hunt" for the late spring. Seein how we eat what we kill I don't want to be vaporizing them but in the name of science a few may have to go to Coyote supper. I imagine a well centered hit with a big load will indeed vaporize one too. Startin to think cowboy hats. Is this a sign?:<) Any advice and/or helpful hints will be appreciated. Thanks again
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Aloysius Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp |
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You never do experiments with other dies? When I reload .45 ACP on my Dillon, the last step is the bullet-seating-die-with-innerparts-removed of a 7x64. It gives a nice tapercrimp + removes that dent the bullet makes on the thin walls of the .45 ACP case.
I never tried it on the 45 Government (don't need it with a Ruger N°1), but it could also work, or with the bullet-seating-die of a .270 Win, a .280 Rem or a 30-06.
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fnuser Super Member
Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 914 Location: S.W. Missouri, U.S.A.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp |
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When you're not rich, it helps to be clever. It's even enough when you know which clever friend to ask such things..... Words to live by Thanks Aloy
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liberty4u2 Rookie Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:08 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp |
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Actually Al, I'm not sure if your askin' me or tellin' me. But, no, never swapped out parts in dies except for rnd vs fl nose bullts in pistol loads. I don't load those ctgs. except 45ACP(on a dillon). Anyway, I bought the die now. sides, Not so sure a taper crimp would be enough to hold a full throttle 500+ gr hard cast. Don't wanna find out either... Quick subject change- What is best size for pictures. Probably use picnik to resize. Like to be able to post pics if needed. After much fiddling I got an Avatar up. I'm not real good with `puter's. Thanks. Anybody shooting the Hornady 350 gr round nose bullet in their 1895's?. Still a little nervous about a magazine tube full of hotties goin off in my hand. Startin' to notice a bit of recoil as I work up. Thinkin' some 405 to 500 gr loads are gonna be fierce. Hee- Haw! After reading about some of the loads from hell that can be worked up I'm looking forward to some serious fun this summer. Alas, being far from rich, if I want something bad enough, I will work as hard as I can to attain it. And... I want a Buff! Have a great day folks!
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Ominivision1 Super Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:14 am Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp |
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liberty4u2
If you want to post a picture, click the "post reply" button and a screen will open up and you have all kinds of options.
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Vince Site Admin
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1895ss Super Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: 45/70 cases too short to crimp |
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liberty4u2 wrote: |
Thanks. Anybody shooting the Hornady 350 gr round nose bullet in their 1895's?. Still a little nervous about a magazine tube full of hotties goin off in my hand. Startin' to notice a bit of recoil as I work up. Thinkin' some 405 to 500 gr loads are gonna be fierce. Hee- Haw! After reading about some of the loads from hell that can be worked up I'm looking forward to some serious fun this summer. |
Yep I use the 350 gr hornady round nose all the time. Here's a target from when I had a scope on my 45-70.
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