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Crackshot Super Member
Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Mich
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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I have heard a rumor at the local gunshop that Michigan is planing on letting Michigan hunters in the lower part of the state use carbines in magnum pistol calibers only for deer hunting. I heard Indiana has done this and Hope Michigan does as well. The little Winchester Trapper 44 mag I have has collected deer in the UP, I would love to turn her loose down here. She is deadly out to 100yds, maybe more with a scope. But scopes dont belong on trappers/carbines.
Anyone here heard this or am I just hearing stupid rumors???
I have also heard they are gonna let us hunt with cross bows now as well!!
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d_hoffman Super Member
Joined: Feb 13, 2007 Posts: 696 Location: Chillicothe, Ohio
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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I hope it's true. Although my old stompin grounds are just above the rifle/shotgun line, I'd like to see that happen. I've heard the same kind of rumors down here in the southern part of Ohio as well. Let's all keep our fingers crossed.
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slimjim Super Member
Joined: May 16, 2009 Posts: 8314 Location: Fort Worth TX
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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Crackshot wrote: |
I have heard a rumor athat Michigan is planing on letting Michigan hunters in the lower part of the state use carbines in magnum pistol calibers only for deer hunting. |
Well, what was the outcome and did you hunt with a carbine in the lower part of the state?
Crackshot wrote: |
scopes don't belong on trappers/carbines. |
I really like scout scopes and red dot scopes mounted over the barrel. You might want to try one of them.
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Crackshot Super Member
Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Mich
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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Nope! No pistol caliber rifle hunting ...we did manage to get cross bow though. Its a start.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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Crackshot wrote: |
we did manage to get cross bow though. |
PSE makes a crossbow upper for an AR but they want $1300 for it! I guess it has a very long reach and you need to shoot it at longer ranges just so you don't robin hood your arrows and ruin them. It shoots a 425 grain "bolt" at 400 fps compared to 100 gr arrow at 300 fps for a normal crossbow. Now that I've looked at the numbers, that is a significant difference.
Did you get a crossbow?
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Elvis Super Member
Joined: Jul 27, 2008 Posts: 9256 Location: south island New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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Please fill in this kiwi boy. Whats wrong with a rifled 12ga???
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Crackshot Super Member
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5002 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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What's wrong with hunting grasshoppers with a howitzer?!?!?
One of my Grandfathers was from the UP of MI. When I bought my first .45-70 he said "That will shoot clean through a deer and set the woods on fire on the other side!"
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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ok so the ammo is expensive but lets face it. if its accurate and from what ive seen saboted stuff is, whats $3 a deer or $30 for that matter??? I bet most of us spend a heck of alot more on gas to get where we are going each week. and a couple of good rounds should do the biz and any finishing shots dont need sabots. the pine forests here have seen shotgun only for years and most fellas get there animal. those HnR trappers in 12ga rifled barrel config are nice to carry and dont boot much. a good recoil pad goes along way to taming recoil. the issue of bullet damage is probably not that huge as BIG slow slugs dont bruise much but sure let alot of daylight in. my early pighunting days were done with a single barrel 12ga smoothbore and it sure did the biz.
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shrpshtrjoe Super Red Neck Member
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Elvis Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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thankyou Joe. thats going to be a VERY dead deer.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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Crackshot wrote: |
Are you fond of recoil? |
Even a 20 gauge slug gun has some recoil. I had to add a recoil pad to my 20 gauge to stop the bruising on the shoulder. But its less recoil than a 12 gauge but still plenty of knock-down power to do the job. First time I fired a 12 gauge slug, it knocked my glasses clean off my face.
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slimjim Super Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Rifle use in Michigans Lower!!!!???? |
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shrpshtrjoe wrote: |
Here's three shots at 75 yards with the 12ga 300 grain Hornady sst |
There are rifles that don't do that well.
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Crackshot Super Member
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