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teebone51 Rookie Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: alliant red dot powder |
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what would you recomend grains of powder for 45 acp 185 grain bullets jhp
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gelandangan Super Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: alliant red dot powder |
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Welcome Teebone
Have you check out Alliant's web site?
www.alliantpowder.com/...+Revolvers
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: Re: alliant red dot powder |
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Teebone51...I find no listing for Red Dot in any of my [limited] manuals. You might look and one of the Winchester powders like W-231 or WSF. Gelandangan has a good suggestion too. I've played with Alliant Power Pistol with fair results in .45 ACP. But still prefer W-231 or WSF
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Gil Martin Super Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Alliant Red Dot powder |
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The Lyman Reloading Manual 45th Edition lists the following data for .45 ACP 185 grain bullets and Red Dot powder:
Suggested Velocity Max. Grs. Velocity
Starting Grs.
4.0 grs. 688 f.p.s. 5.5 grs. 928 f.p.s.
Hope this helps. All the best...
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: Re: alliant red dot powder |
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Ooops...Damn! Miss read my Lyman 48th manual. Gil is correct. There is a listing for Red Dot. My listing is for a .45 ACP 185 grain JHP. Starting at 3.5 grains @ 607 fps and a maximum of 6.1 grains @ 942 fps. And two listings for lead bullets as listed by Gil above.
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ElyBoy Super Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: alliant red dot powder |
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I use W-231 on all of my .45ACP loads.
For only $16.00 a pound, I would go with the 231.
I can give you many loads that are spot on accurate at 25 or 50 yards using a quality 1911 Pistol.
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popgun Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: alliant red dot powder |
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Try not to fall in the rut of just using the powder you have on hand. It's ok to have a couple hundred pounds of powder varieties on hand but when the most accurate is not on your stock just bite the bullet and get the best powder for the load.
On the recommended loads stated as Maximum loads be sure to drop down 5 or 10% and work up from there to be on the safe side with your firearm.
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ElyBoy Super Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: Re: alliant red dot powder |
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For any of my Pistols, I start just a tad higher than the lowest load, and work up from there.
For punching paper, and being accurate, you will find that your best accuracy will come not more than a grain higher than minimum starting drops.
Also, for pistols, and using older powders, you can't beat Clays, or Unique.
Red Dot I have used for forty years on my trap shells.
It isn't known as a pistol powder, except for maybe some .45 Colt Loads.
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