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chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Painful |
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You know how the story goes Tracker :
One man right and the rest of the world is wrong !!!!
man make atempt at changing world, finds resistence and BOOM, world come crashing down.
The sad part was he had a good argument that led to some eyes opening and rethinking their thoughts but wasn't happy with that. Had to push and turn things ugly !!!!!!
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OntheLasGallinas Super Member
Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Posts: 1042 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Painful |
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Tracker,
Like I told Vince, If you don't know, you won't have to testify at the trial! Really, I don't know enough of the details (as to the players involved) to get envolved in trying to explain. All I can say is (in agreement with Chambered221) that it was ugly.
Cary
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11390 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Painful |
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Tracker?? Do I know you?? Who the he!! are you??...Come barging in here like ya never left...
'Bout time you showed up...Was about to court yer gal...
And you expect to be given a new stump and a beer I suspect.
And I'll STILL hunt with a loaded chamber...
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ElyBoy Super Member
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 1541 Location: Forest Lake Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Painful |
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Hunting Season starts for me in 2 1/2 months Tracker.
I'm starting to get the urge to kill something though.
Welcome back.
Eric
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tracker Super Member
Joined: Nov 08, 2006 Posts: 1175 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Painful |
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_________________ "If God hadn't meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!" |
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Dimitri Super Member
Joined: Nov 25, 2005 Posts: 5944
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Painful |
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Tracker,
Don't worry you didn't miss too much. Just the grand ol' debate on Hot and Cold chambers while hunting.
Personally I carry a hot chamber like Bushy.
Dimitri
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tracker Super Member
Joined: Nov 08, 2006 Posts: 1175 Location: Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Painful |
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Thanks for the update Big D. Me too, one in the chamber with the bolt or hammer dropped, cock and fire when I have the shot. I've never had a bolt or a hammer come back on it's own. Course, I'm pretty new at this, only been hunting for fortysome years now.
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vint2 Super Member
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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chambered221 Super Member
Joined: Aug 17, 2007 Posts: 3455 Location: Lost for good !!!
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Painful |
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I hunt most of the time with a hot chamber, although I will go cold when climbing trees, steep hills, or anytime I feel safty is a issue.
What I don't understand is someone with a CCW having a cold chamber, or someone that carries a 1911 with the hammer down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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gelandangan Super Member
Joined: May 07, 2006 Posts: 6396 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: Painful |
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I hunt with COLD chamber until I start my stalk then I go
Sometimes, when I reach the fridge's capacity, I hunt with cold chamber all the way.. I would walk into the middle of a mob of goat and scream howdy at them
Then again.. I am one of those loony ones
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Vince Site Admin
Joined: May 25, 2005 Posts: 15704 Location: Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: Painful |
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_________________ Cheers, Vince
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Pumpkinslinger Super Member
Joined: Sep 22, 2007 Posts: 5001 Location: NC foothills
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Painful |
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On the subject of loaded/unloaded chambers... I did an informal survey of 8-10 hunters I work with and all follow pretty much the same pattern. Unloaded when transporting, climbing into a stand or crossing an obstacle. Otherwise whenever game may appear they are loaded, safety on.
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OntheLasGallinas Super Member
Joined: Aug 23, 2007 Posts: 1042 Location: South Texas
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:51 am Post subject: Re: Painful |
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Mike,
That's probably the way most hunters carry their weapons. I consider driving around the ranch (while checking cattle) as hunting. If I have a rifle, it's loaded.
Cary
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Handloader Super Member
Joined: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 1032 Location: Phoenix, Arizona
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:02 am Post subject: Re: Painful |
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I have been surprised on the subject of "hot" vs "cold" and was interested to see forum members that feel strongly about the subject, often opting for carrying a hunting rifle without a cartridge chambered. I fully support those that believe an unchambered rifle works best for them as it ultimately is a personal choice.
OTOH, I know no one that carries hunting rifles in the field without a chambered round in our area. Maybe, its a regional thing. So, I began to ask customers, lots of them, and found the same thing. Two customers also teach Hunter Safety programs and find the cold chamber idea as alien to what they teach. Of course I also know no hunters that use tree stands, the useage of which is also alien to this area.
Safety is an essential goal of firearm useage; I hope that is universally accepted. Whenever a rifle is not in my hands, it will be unloaded or handed off to another hunter (crossing fences for example). Among my hunting buddies, our concept of safety is more directed toward proper handling of the rifle and making sure it is never pointed unsafely. Never.
In rhetrospect, there have been numerous occassions when an unloaded rifle would have meant a missed kill. While sliding off the safety is an instant process involved in shouldering the rifle, working a bolt or a lever adds time to the movement of putting the rifle into operation, it seems to me.
It would be interesting, however, to have the matter placed as a poll for members of this forum. I am interested in the results.
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Bushmaster Super Member
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 11390 Location: Ava, Missouri
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Painful |
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Chambered...I carry CCW Cocked and locked (loaded chamber).
When in transit, over or under obsticles, handing off to some one or any other pontentially dangerous firearms handling operation, like entering or leaving a boat, the chamber is unloaded. Usually where I park my pickup which is usually where camp is. That's where I start my hunt. Chamber is loaded when leaving camp. Upon returning to camp and within 100 yards or as terrain allows (camp must be in sight) I unload my rifle when entering camp. My side arm is NEVER unloaded...I used to help teach hunter safety to the Boy Scouts in my area when I lived in Washington State. I set up the field course and monitored that course.
As I stated before. I have had only one ND (no such thing as a AD). And that was because I didn't quite understand the safety (half cock) on the Winchester Mod 94. I was only 18 or 19 when that happened.
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