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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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I have my Great Grandfather's discharge papers or mustering out papers. He was part of the New York Volenteers...I would look up what regiment, but they are in my gun safe and quite delicate...
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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Eric,
Mike is right, the war was not fought over slavery, instead it was fought to end the union of states, the Federal Government was above the States that formed the Union from the start of the War on. The "Peace Conference" of 1861 which was supposed to help end hostilities between the states proved that the war was not about slavery as adopting it would have meant that Slavery would have been protected in the Slave States.
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ElyBoy Super Member
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 1541 Location: Forest Lake Minnesota
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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You forgot to mention Mike, that Lincoln sat pretty much on the fence about slavery.
History paints him in a good light about this subject, but Lincoln was still a politician, and was forced into signing the Emancipation Proclamation.
Eric
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vint2 Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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My great grand father fought for the Union in the civil war, and I must say if it were fought today I would be a reb and proud of it!!! The war was actually fought over states rights and secession, not slavery. Negroe troops fought on both sides. Slavery was about to end anyway as it had gotten ecenomically unfeasible and the cotton gin was about to make a drastic change in the cotton business. It was a fool war that cost us too much and never should have happened!!
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Bushmaster Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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Most wars are...
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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A post back on track of the original thread:
Duce,
I'm wondering can you post copies of the manufacturer tags from the canteen covers and magazine pouches ??
I'm real interested to know who made them, cause I know quite a number of the bigger player companies that make these modular items for the US military and they are pretty good when it comes to quality wise. So I was wondering if these are a smaller/less well known contractor or not.
Dimitri
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vint2 Super Member
Joined: Nov 18, 2005 Posts: 1216 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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Dead on, Bushie!!
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ElyBoy Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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Don't butt in Dimitri-- We own this post now!!!!
I'm with you Vint---I'd have to sign on with the Rebs if the War were today.
Bushy--you are right on also.
Eric
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vint2 Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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Dimitri,
Don't be suprised if it says "Made in China"!!!!!!!!
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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Vint,
Most tactical Gear for the US military is actually made in the USA currently.
Dimitri
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ElyBoy Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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I think that the Berets are made in China guys.
Eric
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vint2 Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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Yes, Dimitri, and that is as it should be. I was being more than a little sarcastic and cynical!!!! Made in America is almost a museum piece!!!!!
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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Yes alot of stuff is made in China nowadays, but you know most of the "tactical" gear is made right in the States and Canada, which I like.
My new hunting gear is from said "tactical" gear manufactures. Give me a couple of weeks to get what I ordered in and I'll post pictures of my new Vest and back pack. Everything I've bought is ether made in Canada or in the States.
Dimitri
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vint2 Super Member
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Dimitri Super Member
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: Re: New A.C.U. stuff is crap............ |
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So Duce, can you name names for me ??
I'm really interested on knowing who made them.
Dimitri
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