Winchester scuttlebutt

Handloader · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: Winchester scuttlebutt

When USRAC closed the New Haven plant and stopped production of the Models 70 and 94, speculation began about why the closing took place and whether those historic models would be produced again. This picture has remained vague for awhile, but, some information is leaking out that is heartening.

Rumors: The union contract kept the Winchester employees paid at a much higher dollar per hour level than competition. That contract expires sometime this year. Once expired, it gives USRAC options for locating a new production facility.

Speculation has targeted either Japan or Belgium as a possible site for the production of these models, however, smart money is betting on the good ole USA with labor costs being reduced to the point of making these new models more price and quality competitive. Where would be a good place for this new factory?

Distribution, taxation and labor availability would favor the MidWest in the opinion of some and Browning/Winchester already produces some firearms in that region. CZ is headquartered in that region as well. Possible location? Missouri.

Keeping fingers crossed, I'm anxious to see how this all develops.

Vince · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

Handloader wrote:

Possible location? Missouri.

Keeping fingers crossed, I'm anxious to see how this all develops.

Hey Bushy.......now here's an opening for ya if ever I saw one mate. A dedicated enthusiast manufacturing the greatest lever gun ever made....AWESOME.

Cheers, Vince

1895ss · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

Vince wrote:

Handloader wrote:

Possible location? Missouri.

Keeping fingers crossed, I'm anxious to see how this all develops.

Hey Bushy.......now here's an opening for ya if ever I saw one mate. A dedicated enthusiast manufacturing the 2nd greatest lever gun ever made....AWESOME.

Cheers, Vince

Sorry Vince but I had to correct your error.............. Very Happy

d_hoffman · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

Hey 1895, 2nd greatest? ...So who's the greatest... Henry? Poke

Sorry just had to...

Bushmaster · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

Damned Marlin@#$%people and their^&*ideas anyway...WINCHESTER and no other...Henry? Henry who?

1895ss · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

d_hoffman wrote:

Hey 1895, 2nd greatest? ...So who's the greatest... Henry? Poke

Sorry just had to...

No ........ but it sure is fun to get a horseman from Missouri riled up........ Laughing

ElyBoy · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

Hey Bushy,
Show me a better firearm than the 45/70 Guide Gun.
I love my .348 Model 71, and my Model 70's, but I'll take my 1895G any day.

Eric Very Happy

1895ss · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

Plus they are more accurate...... then a WW Smile

ElyBoy · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

Less than a 1" group using 3031 powder 1895.

Eric

hunterjoe21 · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

At the end of USRAC as it was known, products were suspect at best. While I've never been a Winchester fan, I've always maintained some respect for the name. I know that there are many here, and I have many acquaintances who LOVE Winchester guns and who yearn for a return to the quality of old. I hope that IF production is resumed it is only with the utmost respect and attention to detail that is deserved by these fine firearms and the Winchester name.

1895ss · Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

ElyBoy wrote:

Less than a 1" group using 3031 powder 1895.

Eric

Same here with my 22"bbl model 1895ss and I use IMR3031 as well.

tracker · Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

Hey Bushy,

We've had to put up with all those whiney Marlin shooters before, let them rattle on about all the targets they've killed, You and me will just keep killing deer and elk with our Winchesters. Very Happy

ElyBoy · Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

MmmmMmmmm
That venison that we had last night sure tasted good.
Had to cut around the old 45/70 hole though. Razz

Eric

SwampFox · Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

Winchester 94 with safety and warning, why? What in the world would make a grown person buy one? Never owned one, never intend to own one. It is like the 20ga for a kid, it kicks like the devil and is a real dumb thing to buy for a kid or yourself.
Ed

tracker · Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Winchester scuttlebutt

I had a 20 gauge for awhile when I was a kid. Shot a bunch of ducks and geese with it; they were yummy. Used it from when I was about 12 to when I was 16. Gave it to my brother's brother-in-law when I left home because I was moving to Vancouver.